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Post by talvisynth on Jun 18, 2024 10:04:19 GMT -5
I'd go with cool and plain absurdity and confusion. Now when thinking more about it, I definitely agree.
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Post by talvisynth on Jun 27, 2024 2:49:44 GMT -5
I'm generally not that much into classical type of music, but there's something very intriquing, mind soothing and soul comforting in Renaissance era polyphonic a cappella. So much that it has become a huge thing for me over the last decade or so. During this time, I've even been going to special events to experience this kind of music performed live here in Finland. The works from renaissance composers such as Thomas Tallis, William Byrd, Josquin Desprez, Orlando di Lasso and Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina are simply incredible. I'm not even religious in any way, yet these hundreds of years old masses, motets and madrigals grasp my very inner self in a way not much else really does. Peace and tranquillity at its purest. I guess it all comes down to being a musician and by nature drawn to explore a wide spectrum of styles, genres, eras etc., yet in my own selective, below the surface -seeking and often obscurity-oriented way. From traditional folk and ethnic/world music to European renaissance and even baroque, to modern age of popular music that furthermore consists of various genres and subgenres of rock, metal, blues, electronic music and even some avantgarde. \o/ EDIT: Also, quite a personal transition over the years from being that grim black metal warrior of the past to an academic humanist and peace-lover of today, haha. We live, we age, and we change. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jun 28, 2024 1:08:32 GMT -5
At what point does religious chant music become "classical?" I like the really ancient sounding stuff, but for me the more complex and ornate it gets the more it feels like submission to earthly institutions rather than a transcendent otherworldly entity, still beautiful though. And then a lot of secular classical music just makes me think of wealthy aristocrats frolicking in meadows, just generically "pretty" in a way that I personally can't relate to at all, until like Beethoven I guess, and then the weird experimental modern classical stuff a lot of which I like. I'm not well-versed in any of it though.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jun 28, 2024 2:21:01 GMT -5
My favorite symphony for a long time has been Antonin Dvořák's 9th, "From the New World," which I'm not entirely enthusiastic about nowadays because I feel like it's a bit John Williams bombastic cheesy, but it still definitely gets me going and gives me goosebumps at some parts.
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Post by talvisynth on Jun 28, 2024 3:27:07 GMT -5
At what point does religious chant music become "classical?" At least here in Finland, people often tend to use the word "classical" as a rather general term when in a more non-specific context to describe certain type of Western music, hence my choice of wording. Ofc, more precisely, the actual Classical period falls between Baroque and Romantic periods approx. 1750-1820, whereas the Renaissance was roughly 1400-1600. However, this certain development path in music from Renaissance to Classical is quite obvious, although drawing precise lines are impossible and irrelevant in any case, as there are no exact moments when one period ends and the next one starts. The transition has happened over longer periods of time; we're after all talking about many centuries now. We're also talking about periods in European history where the influence of church has been everywhere in people's lives, and when religion was strongly connected to arts and science. For a long time, church music and secular art music were very interlaced, and the separation of these two was a slow process. As for when music starts falling into the "classical" category in this European art music context, one quite traditional definition is if the composer is known and identified. F.ex. in ancient folk music or even medieval church music there are basically no traces left of the original creator or time of creation. Another essential factor is when writing down music has started to develop in comparison to the unwritten oral traditions of older and ancient times. I used to live and breathe ancient folk music traditions (especially Finnic, Scandinavian and Baltic) along my linguistic studies in the university back in the day, and I even explored the oral music traditions of the indigenous people throughout the Eurasian region while at it. But as that flame burned bright, it was quenched already ages ago. I'm not the same person anymore, thus been finding my interests elsewhere ever since.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jun 28, 2024 18:00:07 GMT -5
As for when music starts falling into the "classical" category in this European art music context, one quite traditional definition is if the composer is known and identified. F.ex. in ancient folk music or even medieval church music there are basically no traces left of the original creator or time of creation. Another essential factor is when writing down music has started to develop in comparison to the unwritten oral traditions of older and ancient times. The term "classical" in a colloquial sense is very interesting. Like should Hildegard von Bingen be considered classical? My initial impulse is to say no, but I'm not sure why. Maybe it is something to do with how I categorize monophonic vs polyphonic music in my mind, but I could imagine monophonic music from the actual Classical period that would still sound like straight-up classical, so idk. I think you're right, whether the music was written by the original composer is a good rule of thumb.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 3, 2024 1:18:50 GMT -5
From this playlist of "dreampunk" music: open.spotify.com/playlist/3uNGdFVAGDQMh4jssoTbjW
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 4, 2024 1:07:59 GMT -5
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 14, 2024 22:38:16 GMT -5
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Post by talvisynth on Jul 20, 2024 13:55:38 GMT -5
Came across a nice collection of contemporary folk music in various Finno-Ugric languages, my mother tongue Finnish among them:
EDIT: Maybe it's those couple of beers I've just had, but holy shit I'm crying on the Finnish one here, this slaps hard and hits deep, whoah:
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 20, 2024 22:45:22 GMT -5
Beautiful, wow!
I don't know much about this stuff, but I stumbled across this album somewhere ages ago and it always sticks out in my mind as something special. I just gave it a relisten, and this song is very dungeony with that brass sound and slow timpani:
I do not know the language or lyrics, but I think the album is primarily Estonian? One site I found says "Lyrics: trad, in North Estonian, Setu and Kihnu dialects, and standard Estonian"
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Post by talvisynth on Jul 21, 2024 2:34:03 GMT -5
I do not know the language or lyrics, but I think the album is primarily Estonian? One site I found says "Lyrics: trad, in North Estonian, Setu and Kihnu dialects, and standard Estonian" Yup, Estonian dialects. And us, the Baltic-Finnic people, share this ancient "rune" verse or "Kalevala meter" style of poem/singing. \o/ =)
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Post by goldofthetigers on Jul 21, 2024 22:55:07 GMT -5
This is a long-time favorite of mine, it was an album paying homage to Basque folk music with the best of modern Basque music and modern instruments.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 23, 2024 1:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 26, 2024 1:03:51 GMT -5
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