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Post by andrewwerdna on Apr 25, 2017 7:04:56 GMT -5
I'm glad someone created a thread like this, I've been thinking about it for a while. As I've said recently on the DS Facebook page, I first suspected the link between AP, Loremaster, Erdstall, Mystic Towers and Siliniez back in 2012, based on a combination of various aesthetic and musical similarities. I mentioned my suspicions to Andrew, who confirmed that the guy behind AP had admitted as such in an interview, but wished for it to remain a secret. Goddamnit. Sorry man, if you're reading this. It is kind of obvious though.
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Post by Tyrannus on Apr 25, 2017 7:08:44 GMT -5
I'm glad someone created a thread like this, I've been thinking about it for a while. As I've said recently on the DS Facebook page, I first suspected the link between AP, Loremaster, Erdstall, Mystic Towers and Siliniez back in 2012, based on a combination of various aesthetic and musical similarities. I mentioned my suspicions to Andrew, who confirmed that the guy behind AP had admitted as such in an interview, but wished for it to remain a secret. Godamnit. Sorry man, if you're reading this. I figured there was an actual confirmation that happened at some point. I just knew this wasn't all guess work. Anyway yeah i think the association between these acts is all well known enough at this point that it shouldn't come as a major surprise to anyone, I don't think...
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Post by balbulus on Apr 25, 2017 7:11:06 GMT -5
Haha, hey man, you did keep your word, you didn't broadcast it. I kept the secret for a few years.
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Post by Tyrannus on Apr 25, 2017 7:26:13 GMT -5
Haha, hey man, you did keep your word, you didn't broadcast it. I kept the secret for a few years. Plus we (or at least me) still have no idea who the actual person is so that secret is safe still
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Post by thekeeper on Apr 25, 2017 7:50:30 GMT -5
Well this is interesting, haha. I feel it's typically taken for granted these are all linked together, newcomers find out soon enough. It was more of my intention with this thread to discuss the music rather than his identity. Like I said on FB somewhere, I like not knowing his identity, at least not to the degree that identities are known nowadays in DS. I liked his interview from the blog though. Him and LL are two artists that take me back to the early BC days of only a few pages of releases.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Apr 25, 2017 8:01:49 GMT -5
Well, about his identity, I'll say he's a cool guy and would fit right in on this forum if he decided to join. I chatted with him a fair amount through email besides just the interview.
I love his music. It's not something I listen to often, because there is a certain unhinged impenetrable dissonant quality which I've never been able to really get comfortable with, but that makes it all the more mysterious. Normally I don't care about physical releases, but I made a point to get the Abandoned Places cassette box set.
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Post by Tyrannus on Apr 25, 2017 9:33:19 GMT -5
Well, about his identity, I'll say he's a cool guy and would fit right in on this forum if he decided to join. I chatted with him a fair amount through email besides just the interview. I love his music. It's not something I listen to often, because there is a certain unhinged impenetrable dissonant quality which I've never been able to really get comfortable with, but that makes it all the more mysterious. Normally I don't care about physical releases, but I made a point to get the Abandoned Places cassette box set. I love that box set! Maybe my second favorite of my physical releases I own. I'd love to chat with him and I'm sure he's very affable, but something tells me these years of secrecy aren't a result of feeling like he wouldn't fit in, haha. Although I can't speak for him of course. He's just such a big inspiration for me and I'd like to hear about his process and his personal inspirations
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Post by nahadoth on Apr 25, 2017 9:44:56 GMT -5
Well, about his identity, I'll say he's a cool guy and would fit right in on this forum if he decided to join. I chatted with him a fair amount through email besides just the interview. I love his music. It's not something I listen to often, because there is a certain unhinged impenetrable dissonant quality which I've never been able to really get comfortable with, but that makes it all the more mysterious. Normally I don't care about physical releases, but I made a point to get the Abandoned Places cassette box set. I love that box set! Maybe my second favorite of my physical releases I own. I'd love to chat with him and I'm sure he's very affable, but something tells me these years of secrecy aren't a result of feeling like he wouldn't fit in, haha. Although I can't speak for him of course. He's just such a big inspiration for me and I'd like to hear about his process and his personal inspirations ditto - I understand the want/need for secrecy, but I just...have so many questions....
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Post by nahadoth on Apr 25, 2017 9:56:08 GMT -5
It's been some years since i've read it, but THIS is the interview andrewwerdna is talking about.
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Post by balbulus on Apr 25, 2017 11:10:48 GMT -5
Going back to the original theme of the thread, my favourite of all these projects has always been Loremaster. I summed up my feelings for this release in the review I wrote for my old blog, it's such an evocative album with a feeling of great age and ancient tranquillity. The only minor flaw are the pitch-shifted vocal samples that appear at the end of the tracks; these add nothing in my opinion.
Abandoned Places is a fantastic and unique project, the bleak atmosphere of surrealism and disorientation is unsurpassed in the genre. Like Andrew, I can't listen to it too much, but it's something I go back to now and again to immerse myself in its sheer alien quality.
The debut albums of both Erdstall and Mystic Towers suffer the same problem for me; they start really well, but lose focus halfway through the 1st track. And the other albums by both projects are poor in my opinion.
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Post by balbulus on Apr 25, 2017 11:37:48 GMT -5
I've just re-read the Jute Gyte interview I referred to before (http://www.teethofthedivine.com/featured/interview-with-jute-gyte/) , it actually dates from Dec 2011, before most of these other projects emerged, so it is not beyond the realms of possibility that it is indeed Adam Kalmbach. Only the first Abandoned Places album was released in Oct 2011.
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Post by Tyrannus on Apr 25, 2017 11:42:47 GMT -5
Isn't he known to sign his emails as "A."? Hmm
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Post by balbulus on Apr 25, 2017 11:48:30 GMT -5
Isn't he known to sign his emails as "A."? Hmm Yes, I saw that FB post too, and it made me wonder.
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Post by balbulus on Apr 26, 2017 9:40:07 GMT -5
I mentioned Ophir as another possible related project, albeit a non-DS one. Is anyone else here a fan? Post-Black Metal noise/drone is the closest genre tag I can come up with. Imagine, if you will, the tormented souls of a thousand doomed guitarists, chained for eternity at the brink of a howling void, each of them playing the saddest music from the entire history of Mankind all at once, whilst molten gold is poured into their ears. That is the sound of Ophir. I'd love to see these 3 albums released as a nice box set, with gold on black inlays. ophir666.bandcamp.com/
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Post by nahadoth on Jul 13, 2017 6:55:06 GMT -5
I made a little timeline of all the known projects. Some huge bursts of activity and some long gaps in between.
Ap 1 oct 11 Ap2 feb '12 Z July 18 '12 Ap3 aug 2 '12 Erdstall 1 aug 6 '12 Loremaster Aug 29 12 S1 sep 12 MT 1 Oct 12 Ap4 jan '13 Ap5 jun '13 Erdstall 2 aug 17 '13 FoM 1 Aug 19 '13 S2 sep 13 Ap6 oct 13 Ap7 Jan 14 S3 sep 14 Ap8 aug 15 MT 2 Jan 16 FoM2 Jan 17
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