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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Aug 2, 2017 6:26:56 GMT -5
Hey.
I have accepted as a writer in a local web magazine (Metal and some Underground stuff) in my country, where no one seems to ever heared of DS. So i am considering to write an article about the genre, maybe even interview some of you guys, (if i would be allowed by the magazine), spread some light on the genre.
Obviously, my article won't make this genre super popular, but still, i am bothered that this idea might be a bad one, since i have the feeling that most DS fans would prefer it to stay underground. on the other hand, more listeners stands for more artist support.
This dilema leads me to ask the question appear on the title, How popular should DS be?
I still have no opinion on the matter, and i would like to read yours, it will also affect me on decideing to write the article or not.
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Post by Tyrannus on Aug 2, 2017 6:29:48 GMT -5
Well I think there's no need to shy away from opportunities to give the genre more exposure. Sure it may seem counter to the kind of secluded and solitary spirit of DS but I think the genre is, by design, always going to have a certain level of obscurity to it. I don't think it'll ever be able to be hugely popular so I see no harm in promoting the genre or individual artists
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Post by chaucerianmyth on Aug 2, 2017 13:48:07 GMT -5
Yeah, honestly, I think it's great that you want to do this! This is validation for the great work that many Dungeon Synth artists do. I know that very few of seek such validation, but it's nice nonetheless, and I think it's good for the scene. It's not like you're writing a buzzfeed article. I think this is awesome and totally fine.
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Post by Erang on Aug 3, 2017 3:02:15 GMT -5
I agree with the wise chaucerianmyth I’d also like to add that “popularity” is not an issue at all in my opinion but what matters more is the way you “got” that popularity. What I mean is that I would make with pleasure any interview for music magazine, blog, etc. but I wouldn’t put my face on a can of Coca-Cola or a box of cereals just to reach more people (well, a box of cereals with Erang’s figurines as gift might be cool though…). That being said, this “popularity VS underground” thing is old as the first minstrel and means nothing to me: The Doors, David Bowie or Jimi Hendrix are not really underground anymore… do their music sucks because of that? So just follow your passion: it's a great news for you Pilgrim's Shadow and that sounds really awesome!
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Aug 3, 2017 3:05:21 GMT -5
Thank you guys.
So besides the article thing, i can understand from your comments that Dungeon Synth shouldn't be popular (and never will be). But of course, it needs some degree of popularity. Do you think the genre's current popularity is enough? is it too much? or should it be more popular?
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Post by Erang on Aug 3, 2017 3:12:21 GMT -5
" i can understand from your comments that Dungeon Synth shouldn't be popular" => I won't speak for others but this is not really what I wrote. If DS becomes popular because of the support of everyone who like this genre, that's fine and great. If it becomes popular because there is a TV reality show with people dressed like Mortiis and locked in a Dungeon during 2 weeks, that's bad. But I agree with Tyrannus : this genre will always have a certain degree of obscurity anyway.
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Aug 3, 2017 4:04:59 GMT -5
" i can understand from your comments that Dungeon Synth shouldn't be popular" => I won't speak for others but this is not really what I wrote. If DS becomes popular because of the support of everyone who like this genre, that's fine and great. If it becomes popular because there is a TV reality show with people dressed like Mortiis and locked in a Dungeon during 2 weeks, that's bad. But I agree with Tyrannus : this genre will always have a certain degree of obscurity anyway. Yeah, sorry, i wrote that comment before i saw yours (we wrote them in the same time). It was more of what i've understood from Tyrannus, " Sure it may seem counter to the kind of secluded and solitary spirit of DS". I strongly agree with this sentence, maybe i misunderstood the lines in between, when i thought it also ment that DS shouldn't be popular. But i guess that i also need to understand that popularity has many faces. Like your examle, Support and true love can alwayes benefit, Problem starts when things change the spirit of the genre into something which is not.
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Post by Erang on Aug 3, 2017 5:18:44 GMT -5
ha ok alright no problem!
Anyway: if you need someone for an interview, I'm your man.
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Post by Ananoriel on Aug 3, 2017 5:44:48 GMT -5
I don't think the genre would be very popular in the future, since it is quite niche. I think it would only attract the people who are into this kind of stuff and with almost the same interests.
And since you are writing about it in your own passion, I don't see anything wrong with it. You just want to share your passion and perhaps let others know of it. And there are several other writers on the internet as well on this subject, and they didn't bring a whole horde with them neither. It is useful for people who are into it, but not knowing where to start, what the names are, and anything. So it would be a big help for newcomers, and fun to read for people who are already into the genre.
I am looking forward to read the article, and I wonder who and what you will mention. It is always fun to see how someone else views the genre.
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Post by inkybat on Aug 3, 2017 13:09:43 GMT -5
I see no reason why dungeon synth shouldn't be popular. I see dungeon synth as being strongly associated with things like video games, the fantasy genre and movie soundtracks, all of which are popular in their own right. And everyone I've introduced to DS has responded very positively to it. It appeals to metal fans, classical music fans and electronic fans. At the same time I'm cynical about the general populace's ability to recognize something amazing.
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Post by chaucerianmyth on Aug 3, 2017 14:56:51 GMT -5
Thank you guys. So besides the article thing, i can understand from your comments that Dungeon Synth shouldn't be popular (and never will be). But of course, it needs some degree of popularity. Do you think the genre's current popularity is enough? is it too much? or should it be more popular? I agree with Erang. I have no problem at all with Dungeon Synth becoming popular. Hell, I would even eat Erang cereal. Why not? I would like to see Dungeon Synth become more popular. I work hard on my music, and many others in this genre do as well. If that is met with popularity, it is well-earned. Also, if you ever need an extra interview, I, too, would be interested.
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Post by Erang on Aug 3, 2017 15:10:26 GMT -5
And we both know how those cereals must be: crispy.
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Post by Tyrannus on Aug 3, 2017 15:14:17 GMT -5
I think it's like going to be forever somewhat "outsider" I mean that's just how some things are. I mean even as incredibly popular as, say, death metal is, it's still largely considered kind of an """abnormal""" genre to listen to (as far as popular culture is concerned). I think even if Dungeon Synth were to get like much much more popular (which I'm pretty sure it will) it's never going to be like a """mainstream""" genre, for lack of a better word. Its roots and really its essence is inherently kind of escapist and countercultural, at times misanthropic. Even if it gains a lot more traction it'll never be like the hip new thing the kids are listening to. I mean the fact that its rise in popularity has been so gradual should, if not serve as an indicator for the future, at least serve to signify a history of obscurity. I think whatever growth it experiences will be pretty manageable and organic, and it'll always have people coming and going. All popular music is accessible and relatable, by nature, but DS is often kind of deliberately exclusive or at least elusive. It's often not terribly danceable and doesn't necessarily speak to the zeitgeist in the way popular music tends to. It's just by nature not ever going to be too too huge
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Aug 3, 2017 17:05:13 GMT -5
I don't think the genre would be very popular in the future, since it is quite niche. I think it would only attract the people who are into this kind of stuff and with almost the same interests. And since you are writing about it in your own passion, I don't see anything wrong with it. You just want to share your passion and perhaps let others know of it. And there are several other writers on the internet as well on this subject, and they didn't bring a whole horde with them neither. It is useful for people who are into it, but not knowing where to start, what the names are, and anything. So it would be a big help for newcomers, and fun to read for people who are already into the genre. I am looking forward to read the article, and I wonder who and what you will mention. It is always fun to see how someone else views the genre. Thank you, i want to say i'll post it once it's on web, the problem is that it won't be english Perhaps i'll translate it so other DS fans can read it as well chaucerianmyth and Erang, it is funny because you two are those i thought of when i mentioned the interview part. I'll need permission from the owner of the magazine so it's not totally sure, but i will let you know once it is relevant. For the record, i would also eat Erang cereal
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Post by surlaneige on Aug 5, 2017 19:09:15 GMT -5
If it becomes popular because there is a TV reality show with people dressed like Mortiis and locked in a Dungeon during 2 weeks, that's bad. I'd actually get a TV just to watch that, haha... Imagine the kind of desperate, self-satisfied egotists that go on reality shows stuck in a dungeon with Mortiis or Varg as their 'mentors' (or should that be 'tormentors'?). Would be amazing. You'd get some dark depths of the human soul captured in full HD i bet.
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