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Post by chaucerianmyth on Aug 7, 2017 18:10:40 GMT -5
I've been re watching the movies lately with my girlfriend. I've actually really been enjoying them, at least the first three, which is where we are now. They're a bit more cutesy than the books, but I don't mind that. I think they're charming, especially when the characters are so little. It's all quite adorable, and yet, the HP stories, thanks to the source material, are great adventure tales. The trials in the Sorcerer's Stone would make a great D&D adventure, which of course, fantasy purists drool over if it's about anything other than HP. If it wasn't Harry Potter slaying the basilisk in the chamber of secrets, and was some other fantasy character, every fantasy purist would love it, I'm sure. I also particularly enjoy the first 3 books, when the characters are children, because it taps into that kind of adventurous bravery that we see in the Hobbit characters of LOTR - the capacity for great bravery even in those deemed unlikely. That's always been a great theme for me. I was also reading the Harry Potter books as they came out, like Alder was. I have very fond memories reading them. All-in-all, I think they're great fantasy books, and well-written. Sure, there are lots of parallels you can make with LOTR, but that can be said about many fantasy stories that purists don't have a problem with. Also, LOTR isn't entirely original, either. |
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Post by Alder on Aug 7, 2017 18:20:02 GMT -5
If it wasn't Harry Potter slaying the basilisk in the chamber of secrets, and was some other fantasy character, every fantasy purist would love it, I'm sure.  Source: Angela Rizza |
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Post by thekeeper on Aug 7, 2017 18:25:01 GMT -5
That's a great one. Checked her page out. Great Tolkien art, too, especially the first Hobbiton one.
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Aug 8, 2017 4:29:53 GMT -5
I really regret seen most of the movies without reading the books first. HP has good plot, good imagination and rich detailed world and characters. It is high fantasy alright, and realyl fits the DS atmosphere in the mysterious theme.
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Post by nahadoth on Aug 10, 2017 6:53:20 GMT -5
Looking through the images that Alder posted, I couldn't help but chuckle remembering the ones that portrayed a humorous happening. So, even though not in context, they look very suited, I think some will always remember the fact that the series had a lot of humor, which started out as over-the-top and slapsticky, and I'm pretty sure that's one of the main things people are thinking of when deciding against HPDS. And of course LOTR and other high fantasy has humor too, because it's exhausting to read 500+ pages of grim darkness no matter who you are. as for Redwall based DS, I imagine this |
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Post by Alder on Aug 12, 2017 2:24:39 GMT -5
Looking through the images that Alder posted, I couldn't help but chuckle remembering the ones that portrayed a humorous happening. So, even though not in context, they look very suited, I think some will always remember the fact that the series had a lot of humor, which started out as over-the-top and slapsticky, and I'm pretty sure that's one of the main things people are thinking of when deciding against HPDS. And of course LOTR and other high fantasy has humor too, because it's exhausting to read 500+ pages of grim darkness no matter who you are. You're probably right. Definitely. People as a people so often take themselves much too seriously. But, slapstick and physical humor certainly thrives in the dungeon! e.g.  (or is this more of an irony thing?)Humor and light-heartedness in a grimdark setting was something I was thinking on when putting together the track Kobolds, Goblins, Cretins, Fiends on the Chapter 2 album. I wanted to try and make a bit of story that can be experienced from two perspectives at once - that of the Delver suffering in fear and hiding in the shadows from a parade of perverse goblinoids (which mood wins in the end for story's sake), and also that of the troglodyte brethren celebrating yet another blessed day in the stinky darkness they call home. If I can be a bit self-congratulatory, I think it worked. I find it distressed and fear-filled, but I also totally dance to it in my underwear and imagine all sorts of funny-looking creatures and their antics. Do you hear it, too? Does anyone have other examples of dungeon music that's not majorly thematically cozy or, uh, "emotionally positive" that still contains snippets of such moods? P.S. - are there any funny moments in the Silmarillion? |
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Post by Alder on Aug 12, 2017 2:25:54 GMT -5
P.S. - are there any funny moments in the Silmarillion? I guess the image of a whole bunch of Balrogs whipping a humongous spider while Morgoth is all tied up and struggling like a Scooby-Doo villain is sort of comical after all... |
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Post by ranseur on Aug 16, 2017 0:23:09 GMT -5
Nice goblin there. When it comes to harry potter I read the first four when they first came out but moved away from it after I got into tolkien and forgotten realms stuff. Never really liked the movies, I kind of want to know what happens at the end though because I never saw the last few movies.
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Post by thekeeper on Aug 16, 2017 7:35:09 GMT -5
Nice goblin there. When it comes to harry potter I read the first four when they first came out but moved away from it after I got into tolkien and forgotten realms stuff. Never really liked the movies, I kind of want to know what happens at the end though because I never saw the last few movies. Fifth one is the best. I'd say to just watch the rest of movies, last few are a lot of secret societies, murder, and mental anguish. Some really sad moments, too. Quite a few major characters die. |
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Post by nahadoth on Aug 16, 2017 23:49:50 GMT -5
Yeah the person they got to direct the films from 5-8 (or 7A/7B if you like it weird) did a great job balancing the more big budget CGI heavy set pieces with some real emotional nuance that in some cases isn't even there in the books. They're plenty enjoyable for big budget blockbusters, and they look really great - lots of greys and browns so that when the actual magic happens the action sequences are visually very distinct.
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i'm a newbie here, thanks for the approval!