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Post by thekeeper on Dec 4, 2017 15:37:06 GMT -5
One of my favorite black metal tapes, one of my favorite labels. Great vocals on this.
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Post by nahadoth on Dec 4, 2017 23:37:12 GMT -5
Going through the first Borknagar full-length. I don't know why I've never really looked into Borknagar that much. I've seen their second album listed on all kinds of 'best ever' lists but never gave them a listen. I've been missing out, fatally. This album is ridiculously good. Nattens Madrigal is my all time favorite BM album so I love Garm's vocals on this. Guitar is driving and very 'black metal' but never boring or unimaginative. Everything is spot on. I would say this is an 'atmospheric black metal' album, but I don't really like using that term; not ABM in the way its used now, but the cover art is exactly how it sounds, atmospheric in all its senses. This is really a phenomenal release, even more so considering how much I don't really like anything else Borknagar has done. Of course I heard Quintessence and Empiricism when first exploring extreme metal since I was looking for more melodic things. But came back to this album in a phase where I was obsessed with Ulver, and trying to listen to every project Garm had been associated with. But this one is special, in part because it really completes the picture of what Garm was doing as a vocalist prior to giving up on screaming. First Arcturus, early Ulver, and this release (And The Olden Domain to a lesser extent) draw an interesting web.
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Post by nahadoth on Dec 4, 2017 23:44:15 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone here ever listened to this band Velvet Cacoon. I found them as they started releasing music, and they built up this whole wild mystique about a guitar powered by diesel fumes and amplified by an empty fish tank and a drummer who committed suicide that lots of people, myself included, fell for, before finally revealing the whole thing as some weird head-game. Can't remember if that was before or after they stole a bunch of songs from the artist Korouva and released them as their own work.
anyway, the mystique and subsequent controversy was pretty secondary to me as I really enjoyed the music. These days I only ever come back to this album, Genevieve. EDIT: I guess I see them as an early example of blackgaze, particularly with their "P aa opal", though I don't know if anyone actually making blackgaze would recognize them.
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Post by thekeeper on Dec 5, 2017 0:52:13 GMT -5
nahadoth , I've really only given Genevieve a proper listen, kind of picking around the rest of their discography, but Genevieve is a great release. For being as washed out and droning as it is, boring to many people, there's something still captivating about it. It's literally trance inducing for me and I can lose track of time while listening, and suddenly it's over. I could've sworn I've seen Angela around once or twice, but I was never certain. Have you checked out Clair Cassis? Kind of follows the VC tradition but explores concepts of decadence more, less of the musical equivalent of dense purple-grey fog but still woozy.
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Post by nahadoth on Dec 5, 2017 9:23:01 GMT -5
nahadoth , I've really only given Genevieve a proper listen, kind of picking around the rest of their discography, but Genevieve is a great release. For being as washed out and droning as it is, boring to many people, there's something still captivating about it. It's literally trance inducing for me and I can lose track of time while listening, and suddenly it's over. I could've sworn I've seen Angela around once or twice, but I was never certain. Have you checked out Clair Cassis? Kind of follows the VC tradition but explores concepts of decadence more and, less of the musical equivalent of dense purple-grey fog, but still woozy. Oh right, I forgot they're from your neck of the woods. Genevieve really is the strongest of their albums. Dextronaut was more generic Burzum worship, but I remember enjoying the second disc of dark ambient tracks when FMP released it on CD. Nowadays I can't really stand the sound of the P aa Opal album - sounds like someone is singing or humming over all the layers of guitars to fatten the sound, but I just find it distracting. Yeah, I enjoyed the self titled Clair Cassis release - I've got it on vinyl, in fact. The other two EPs felt a little rushed, but that band had a great sound overall. I liked that there were some rhythmic imperfections in the drums, kinda added to the hypnotic effect the same way a slight keyboard error does in Era 1 Mortiis. Very strange, though, to see a band as dedicated to DXM as they were. When I first started listening, there was a minor epidemic of DXM/cough syrup abuse in my home town. A strange coincidence.
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Post by thekeeper on Dec 5, 2017 10:34:56 GMT -5
nahadoth, yeah its not hard to come by their LPs or CDs in record stores. I don't really know how they're seen these days. Their controversy was funny to me, but I think their legacy has impacted the new wave of atmospheric black and all that now in mostly a positive way, so I think they're better known for like this album now than for the album rip-off thing and for being strange figures of anonymity, but I don't know, maybe they're still pretty polarizing. It's rare a bm band has a topic and concept focus like they do. I think Clair Cassis' focus is even more rare. Wine, chocolate, pearls, and clove smoke BM is pretty irregular.
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Post by thekeeper on Dec 5, 2017 15:50:37 GMT -5
Magical synth-heavy Bulgarian BM with whisper screaming. Very majestic release.
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Post by nahadoth on Dec 6, 2017 23:57:13 GMT -5
Really been enjoying this full length release from Anosia. The two preview tracks on the Hollow Myths channel are a pretty good indication of the sound - a bit more of a melancholic feel on this one than in the Witches Moon material but some clear similarities in the sounds, particularly guitar tone, clean vox, some of the keyboard sounds.
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Post by ranseur on Dec 7, 2017 16:11:52 GMT -5
nahadoth , I've really only given Genevieve a proper listen, kind of picking around the rest of their discography, but Genevieve is a great release. For being as washed out and droning as it is, boring to many people, there's something still captivating about it. It's literally trance inducing for me and I can lose track of time while listening, and suddenly it's over. I could've sworn I've seen Angela around once or twice, but I was never certain. Have you checked out Clair Cassis? Kind of follows the VC tradition but explores concepts of decadence more, less of the musical equivalent of dense purple-grey fog but still woozy. I always kind of thought angela didn't exist and the dxm and celibacy thing were kind of exaggerated. dxm sucks too.
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Post by nahadoth on Dec 7, 2017 23:48:00 GMT -5
nahadoth , I've really only given Genevieve a proper listen, kind of picking around the rest of their discography, but Genevieve is a great release. For being as washed out and droning as it is, boring to many people, there's something still captivating about it. It's literally trance inducing for me and I can lose track of time while listening, and suddenly it's over. I could've sworn I've seen Angela around once or twice, but I was never certain. Have you checked out Clair Cassis? Kind of follows the VC tradition but explores concepts of decadence more, less of the musical equivalent of dense purple-grey fog but still woozy. I always kind of thought angela didn't exist and the dxm and celibacy thing were kind of exaggerated. dxm sucks too. Hah, never considered the possibility that Angela was an invention of Josh. But there are some ASMR-tingle like close-miced voice recordings on the last VC where there are pretty clearly two voices speaking French and probably tripping judging from how their voices sound. Yeah I never did it, but everybody I knew who tried it, whether from cough syrup or from taking pure stuff, seemed fucking miserable the entire time. It made me pretty confident I could live without that experience.
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Post by thekeeper on Dec 8, 2017 10:39:20 GMT -5
I always kind of thought angela didn't exist and the dxm and celibacy thing were kind of exaggerated. dxm sucks too. Hah, never considered the possibility that Angela was an invention of Josh. But there are some ASMR-tingle like close-miced voice recordings on the last VC where there are pretty clearly two voices speaking French and probably tripping judging from how their voices sound. Yeah I never did it, but everybody I knew who tried it, whether from cough syrup or from taking pure stuff, seemed fucking miserable the entire time. It made me pretty confident I could live without that experience. She's a real person, but I guess we can't really know if she actually played guitar on the VC albums, or bass in Clair Cassis, perhaps was merely in the photos, but I have no reason to doubt she was actually musically involved. The celibacy thing might be exaggerated to some degree, but there are honest opinions behind that one regarding human sexuality. Many VC rumors had some semblance of truth, just often exaggerated or over-emphasized (admiration for the ALF and ELF, elaborate ways of distorting guitar sounds, weird piano performances), but some were just to toy with kvlt black metal dorks or were fueled by a more chaotic desire for humorous disruption.
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Post by Tyrannus on Dec 8, 2017 11:36:54 GMT -5
Magical synth-heavy Bulgarian BM with whisper screaming. Very majestic release. Holy shit Iβm loving this. nebulosa gotta check this out
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Post by ranseur on Dec 8, 2017 16:15:26 GMT -5
Hah, never considered the possibility that Angela was an invention of Josh. But there are some ASMR-tingle like close-miced voice recordings on the last VC where there are pretty clearly two voices speaking French and probably tripping judging from how their voices sound. Yeah I never did it, but everybody I knew who tried it, whether from cough syrup or from taking pure stuff, seemed fucking miserable the entire time. It made me pretty confident I could live without that experience. She's a real person, but I guess we can't really know if she actually played guitar on the VC albums, or bass in Clair Cassis, perhaps was merely in the photos, but I have no reason to doubt she was actually musically involved. The celibacy thing might be exaggerated to some degree, but there are honest opinions behind that one regarding human sexuality. Many VC rumors had some semblance of truth, just often exaggerated or over-emphasized (admiration for the ALF and ELF, elaborate ways of distorting guitar sounds, weird piano performances), but some were just to toy with kvlt black metal dorks or were fueled by a more chaotic desire for humorous disruption. Yeah maybe it's not true what I'm saying. But the reason I thought that was I read this interview once with the both of them and it really sounded like the same person talking. Like the sentences were structured exactly the same and stuff, repeating the same opinions in barely a different way. Struck me as odd.
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Post by thekeeper on Dec 10, 2017 21:34:17 GMT -5
One of the most enjoyable avant-bm releases this year just got a tape on The Throat, don't miss out: Also check out the Seer's Fire tape that's out. Really strong synth-heavy raw fantasy bm. Hazy and magical.
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Post by nahadoth on Dec 11, 2017 12:10:10 GMT -5
I like this Aura Grey tape. The vocals and some other parts of the sound are reminding me of Stagnant Waters a bit. I like the Seer's Fire stuff, too, not sure if I like it enough to get a tape although it seems exclusive to the tape at the moment. I like hearing the epic sound with a little less polish in the production.
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