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Post by Båvingr on Jun 9, 2018 5:36:49 GMT -5
Ever listened to DS so intensely and for so long a period that "normal music" sounds weird to you? I find myself not having the patience to sit through music with vocals, riffs, drums etc... I've not felt the need to play my basses for months... I think I may have re-wired my brain. This is slightly worrying.
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Post by stormcrow on Jun 9, 2018 9:53:50 GMT -5
I think it's absolutely normal. I've studied and played the guitar for over 25 years, there had been times when I trained over 4 hours a day, you know, challenging all those difficult stuff like Steve Vai, Eric Johnson etc.... now I'm a little bit tired of all that, and I'm a bit too old for that kind of dedication, as well. But, the most important thing is that returning to DS and black metal has given me back the REAL value of music, the meaning of each note, the intensity of melodic themes, the freedom of writing by heart and all the rest. This doesn't mean I will never pick up the guitar again. I will in a different way. I'm already doing it in a different way. And there's nothing bad in this. My former guitar teacher from the academy sent me his congrats after "The Forgotten Tomb" was released, and I can swear I didn't expect this at all! On the other side, I can tell you it's wrong to give up completely on other styles. I'm listening to a lot of DS too....most at work, because I'm alone in my office but I couldn't ever listen to DS in my car.... so imagine that I have two parallel worlds of music.... one is DS , the other is all the rest. Just trying to find out some balance.
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Post by ranseur on Jun 9, 2018 15:28:03 GMT -5
I mean it depends what you mean by normal. Very few ds albums have come close to atonality, no one's really messing with microtones or 12 tone row. I think a lot of death metal is more musically screwed up than almost any dungeon synth.
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Post by nahadoth on Jun 11, 2018 12:52:34 GMT -5
I mean it depends what you mean by normal. Very few ds albums have come close to atonality, no one's really messing with microtones or 12 tone row. I think a lot of death metal is more musically screwed up than almost any dungeon synth. Definitely true - DS is pretty musically conservative. But I definitely see what the OP means with regards to structure - after long periods where I'm mostly listening to DS, it's weird to go and hear a 3-4 minute song with a clearly defined hook, verse, bridge etc. I definitely get more acclimated to the slow growth/unfolding of some hypnotic DS, especially.
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Post by Summerless on Jun 12, 2018 7:56:33 GMT -5
I mean it depends what you mean by normal. Very few ds albums have come close to atonality, no one's really messing with microtones or 12 tone row. I think a lot of death metal is more musically screwed up than almost any dungeon synth. Kinda thinking about doing some Schoenberg 12-tone matrices now, thanks for the reminder!
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Post by Båvingr on Jun 13, 2018 8:23:02 GMT -5
I mean it depends what you mean by normal. Very few ds albums have come close to atonality, no one's really messing with microtones or 12 tone row. I think a lot of death metal is more musically screwed up than almost any dungeon synth. Definitely true - DS is pretty musically conservative. But I definitely see what the OP means with regards to structure - after long periods where I'm mostly listening to DS, it's weird to go and hear a 3-4 minute song with a clearly defined hook, verse, bridge etc. I definitely get more acclimated to the slow growth/unfolding of some hypnotic DS, especially. It's the weird instrumentation for me, not really being an electronic music person, not having guitars or (normal) drums was very jarring when I started listening to DS... Now drums, guitars and (especially) vocals are the things that irk me.
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Post by Båvingr on Jun 13, 2018 8:26:50 GMT -5
But, the most important thing is that returning to DS and black metal has given me back the REAL value of music, the meaning of each note, the intensity of melodic themes, the freedom of writing by heart and all the rest. Ha, yes, I know what you mean, no compromises! Personally, I've never felt so fulfilled with making music.
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Post by stormcrow on Jun 13, 2018 15:05:42 GMT -5
But, the most important thing is that returning to DS and black metal has given me back the REAL value of music, the meaning of each note, the intensity of melodic themes, the freedom of writing by heart and all the rest. Ha, yes, I know what you mean, no compromises! Personally, I've never felt so fulfilled with making music. EXACTLY!!! which kind of music did you play before? from what I have listened, it seems you've not a "tout-court metal" background...
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Post by Båvingr on Jun 13, 2018 17:29:36 GMT -5
Ha, yes, I know what you mean, no compromises! Personally, I've never felt so fulfilled with making music. EXACTLY!!! which kind of music did you play before? from what I have listened, it seems you've not a "tout-court metal" background... "Alternative", goth, punk, Mod, but never metal - where I live there is not much interest in extreme music, sadly. I would have loved to play in a metal band but never knew any other interested musicians. What about you, do you have a metal band? PS, I've learned a new phrase "tout-court"!
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Post by stormcrow on Jun 14, 2018 1:12:36 GMT -5
not at the moment, and so it will be forever. I had a couple of hard rock / metal bands many years ago...the last one was a Rainbow-inspired hard rock band, think of 10 years ago. Heavy metal has always been part of my life, may I say I'm a "tout-court" metal guy ahahah In the last 7-8 years I played most blues-rock, hard rock and fusion stuff, but always by myself, just to improve my knowledge and techical skills. I think I won't deal with bands ANYMORE. Two years ago I got deep into black metal (as it happened for a while in the mid 90s, as well...) and recorded several songs without the vocals. But still NO interest in building up a band. There's an EXCELLENT vocalist that is taking care of those tracks at this moment. Maybe on day that stuff will come out. ...Just to tell how Black Metal and DS still go hand in hand....
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Post by olofdigre on Jun 14, 2018 1:47:47 GMT -5
After listening to some screw for a week or two regular music sounded silly like Alvin and the Chipmunks tracks. This is normal.
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Post by thekeeper on Jun 14, 2018 10:13:15 GMT -5
This is the funniest thread title so far. Sounds like you're in what's called a 'd-hole', so deep in the dungeon you can't get out.
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Post by Båvingr on Jun 14, 2018 10:25:53 GMT -5
This is the funniest thread title so far. Sounds like you're in what's called a 'd-hole', so deep in the dungeon you can't get out. YES!!! I love it!
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Post by Båvingr on Jul 17, 2018 9:13:42 GMT -5
Well, I seem to be crawling out of my d-hole, blinking in the sunlight and listening to normal music!
This week I've been enjoying Anathema's "Eternity"
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Post by wyverngarden on Jul 17, 2018 21:50:54 GMT -5
If everything sounds different then DS is definitely doing something. I really don't know what "normal" is. I listen to ambient, neofolk, modern classical, pagan folk, noise, early industrial, free jazz, black metal, psych folk, vaporwave, experimental prog, post-minimalism and all kinds of African, Indian, Middle Eastern music, as well as DS... To me all of this has become normal and to this extent DS fits right in. I guess I'm just used to switching frames or modes of listening to the point I don't even notice, perhaps I should become more aware or question it more. I just simply have no desire to listen to contemporary pop stuff and haven't for many years.
One thing that DS does that no other genre can touch is to fulfill its role as ambience, especially when I'm alone or walking around, the natural and environmental sounds, even the hum of buildings blend right in and are colored by it. Traditional ambient music is supposed to do this but never did for me. I'm well familiar with Eno's ambient series and even Hiroshi Yoshimura and I find myself listening too attentively to their work, despite their intentions it becomes still too much of an "object" that shuts out the rest of the world. With DS of course the listening is attentive but at the same time more open to other sounds and experiences.. I thought DS is also the most solitary genre. But when I am outdoors I'm not really alone, I am simply being with nonhumans. DS can awaken one's perception to the nonhuman world and its different kind of sociality.
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