Ropp
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Post by Ropp on Feb 11, 2019 8:35:49 GMT -5
If well done, it's something I usually enjoy. It can give an extra layer of depth to the track without making it more complex, and enhances the immersion into the theme. I'd say Pendragon's Launcelot, Cimitir's Bonechiller and Brutus Greenshield's Contours of a Failed Siegue are great examples.
As a listener: what do you think about it?
And as an artist: have you ever used this resource? Which are the considerations to take regarding copyrights?
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Post by stormcrow on Feb 11, 2019 10:02:29 GMT -5
If well done, it's something I usually enjoy. It can give an extra layer of depth to the track without making it more complex, and enhances the immersion into the theme. I'd say Pendragon's Launcelot, Cimitir's Bonechiller and Brutus Greenshield's Contours of a Failed Siegue are great examples. As a listener: what do you think about it? And as an artist: have you ever used this resource? Which are the considerations to take regarding copyrights? I don't know how the copyright stuff works exactly... but I have seen many artists doing this through the years without troubles. One album that has these inserts you're speaking about, and which I'm quite bound to (not just because they're from my hometown) is Domine's "Champion Eternal". It features samples from "Ladyhawke" and "Excalibur" movies. Cradle of Filth used a sample from "Dracula" (1992) in their "Vempire" EP, as well.
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Post by poppet108 on Feb 11, 2019 10:32:39 GMT -5
I sometimes will sample TV shows, mainly animated ones. Probably more relevant is my song The Tree of Woe, which samples Conan the Barbarian extensively, and is about a very specific event in that movie poppetblackmetal.bandcamp.com/track/the-tree-of-woeI love the use of samples, as it allows for intense quotability for DS, which isn't a terribly quotable genre.
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Post by thekeeper on Feb 12, 2019 14:53:49 GMT -5
I'm pretty fond of samples. I could see how it might compromise the 'otherness' of dungeon synth, like the sample keeping the music placed in current reality instead of transporting the listener to somewhere else in time or imagination, but I've yet to find an instance where samples in DS haven't worked. The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath a Cloud is one of my favorite neofolk bands and their movie sampling is done really well. Lamentation uses what sounds like a bat sample from an old movie at the beginning of Eine Symphonie Der Nacht, to name another instance in DS. Summoning uses samples well, too.
I wouldn't worry about copyright stuff if you're not going an overtly commercial route (music streaming on spotify, apple music, etc), but even then I don't think its something people are really hammering down on. I don't know much about copyright law around music sampling, but I would assume the creative use of it clears you of whatever rules you might theoretically break. Look at the bulk of vaporwave, for instance. It's a genre more or less built on samples (manipulated of course, but still). I've never known anyone who has been approached about sampling in their music.
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Ropp
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Post by Ropp on Feb 19, 2019 8:03:16 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers. I neither think anyone would actually bother claiming for coprights at this scale, but I still wondered if there were any set of contitions to avoid copyright responsabilities related to sampling a commercial product.
Some years ago I participated in a podcast where we would talk about fantastic/historic places, and we were thinking about setting some episodes in Blizzard related universes. I asked them about the possibility of using their official soundtracks, and they basically told me that I might do it as long as I didn't use a whole track (I'd say they don't want you to re-distribute their material as a whole) and I referenced the tracks used. Still, I don't know up to what point this can be applied to other kind of samples and sources, or if it was a concession made by Blizzard for any fanmade content.
And about distribution, do you think there is such a difference between bandcamp and other distribution services as apple music or spotify? Is it just a matter of popularity, or are there other factors to consider with the distribution system?
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Post by olofdigre on Feb 22, 2019 14:34:38 GMT -5
I really enjoy to use samples that I know sound so very obscure but really are just from blockbuster movies or some kids show. If it is not obvious where it is from or what it is about than I think it can be used in DS and astro ambient without it ripping through the mood
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