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Post by Verminaard on Dec 25, 2016 4:46:48 GMT -5
Thought it's about time that I put up a thread for what is in my top 3 musical acts of all time. Dargaard is the band that really got me interested in neoclassical darkwave, and I discovered them through Dragonlance (Dargaard is the name of a location in the series, and many of their songs are about events in the books). That in turn lead to me getting interested in atmospheric stuff in general, then I figured out one half of Dargaard, Tharen, was Abigor's original vocalist, so I started down the black metal rabbit hole, and the rest is history -- I've often told people it's weird because for many of us, black metal lead us to more dark ambient and eventually dungeon synth work, but it was exactly the opposite for me.
The state of the project is still "unknown," with Tharen teasing a new album after Rise and Fall several times over the years, but no official news has come. Here's to hoping he and Elisabeth eventually return to the project.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Dec 25, 2016 9:57:54 GMT -5
I like Dargaard a lot, I've known about them for a long time. I've never really listened to them much though. I would group them into the same general category as Arcana and Die Verbannten Kinder Evas. Beautiful music, and should definitely be in the awareness of any self-respecting dungeon synth aficionado.
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Post by Verminaard on Dec 25, 2016 12:41:48 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Arcana and Die Verbannten Kinder Evas are wonderful neoclassical darkwave as well. I think that the genre as a whole, for the most part, is a goldmine for people who are into dungeon synth. Elend and Ophelia's Dream are also wonderful. But really, you should do a discography binge on Dargaard if you haven't listened to them much, all of their albums are amazing. In Nomine Aeternitatis is my personal favorite, followed by Rise and Fall.
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Post by faeryring on Jan 15, 2017 19:04:37 GMT -5
This is my favourite Dargaard song. Very dungeon synth feel, particularly when it comes in about 0:50
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Post by BarrunbeBeltza on Feb 19, 2017 5:09:45 GMT -5
Definitely Dargaard was my first approach to dark synth.
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Post by chaucerianmyth on Feb 22, 2017 14:46:50 GMT -5
I definitely think that they're important, especially now, since many artists in the DS have sort of taken on many aspects of Neoclassical Darkwave in their music without realizing where many of those sounds stemmed.
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Post by Tyrannus on Feb 22, 2017 15:26:09 GMT -5
I definitely think that they're important, especially now, since many artists in the DS have sort of taken on many aspects of Neoclassical Darkwave in their music without realizing where many of those sounds stemmed. Agreed, sometimes it seems like people think that modern DS is humanity's first attempt at making synthesized orchestral music. Some modern DS actually seems more like it should be called neoclassical darkwave...as though the artist or listeners was unaware of the darkwave tag. I feel like it'd be interesting to talk about the distinction between those styles and stuff like that
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Post by chaucerianmyth on Feb 22, 2017 15:54:07 GMT -5
I definitely think that they're important, especially now, since many artists in the DS have sort of taken on many aspects of Neoclassical Darkwave in their music without realizing where many of those sounds stemmed. Agreed, sometimes it seems like people think that modern DS is humanity's first attempt at making synthesized orchestral music. Some modern DS actually seems more like it should be called neoclassical darkwave...as though the artist or listeners was unaware of the darkwave tag. I feel like it'd be interesting to talk about the distinction between those styles and stuff like that I agree. I always try to keep the distinction in mind when making my own music, and I think there certainly are some distinctions, even when a DS album sounds pretty neoclassical.
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Post by Tyrannus on Feb 22, 2017 16:01:37 GMT -5
Elaborate!
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Post by chaucerianmyth on Feb 22, 2017 16:48:21 GMT -5
Well, for one, the way songs are structured make a lot of difference, I think. Repetition is much more a part of Dungeon Synth than it is in Neoclassical music. Even in DS that sounds very Neoclassical (like many of my own songs, of course), the extensive use of repetition is a holdover from earlier, more purely Dungeon Synth works. To me, this is the most significant musical distinction between Neoclassical music and Dungeon Synth that sounds very Neoclassical, with some more minor ones as well, such as the lateral and linear addition of different instruments and part as the song progresses or as sections repeat. All in all, I think that, in many ways, the two genres have largely merged, and I think it's for the best, as it's giving us a ton of great material.
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Post by velkaarn on Mar 7, 2017 23:31:11 GMT -5
I used to listen to Dargaard alot some years ago, enjoyable stuff! Not as great as DVKE but definitely worth more attention than I've given them lately.
Arcana I've had in much more steady rotation though not the latest releases, I think they did a Dead Can Dance turn to more "world music" type of sound which I wasn't at all into. "Inner Pale Sun" is the last one I've been listening to.
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