Dungeon Synth and 90's Black Metal Jan 18, 2017 16:40:39 GMT -5
Post by glamhoth on Jan 18, 2017 16:40:39 GMT -5
The ideal form is not beyond experience, it's within it. That's pretty much Heidegger's criticism towards Plato. Heidegger overcomplicates things a bit, but his take on truth as "non-concealment" rather than "correctness of view" is quite easy to grasp. Truth, in it's original sense, doesn't lie in comparison or relation between forms, or between mold and imperfect forms. Truth simply reveals itself, the very Greek term, aletheia, means "unconcealedness".
The cave allegory illustrates this earlier concept, as going from darkness towards the light and having the "truth" revealed in the process. The entire path requires an adjustment and transformation of vision, a turning of the soul to what is disclosed with each step ahead. What is revealed along the path and engraved in the soul, that's the truth in its primordial sense, that's the "right idea" I was talking about. Truth as correspondence between an idea and the thing it represents is just a derivative, weak mode.
You're right when you say "vocabulary is relatively new in the grand picture". Truth as "unconcealedness" can't be properly expressed in words, it reveals itself through a more primordial language, the language of the symbols. The symbol was the first thing known to man, through the symbol he was first able to acknowledge and conceptualize reality. The symbols went to be complemented with narratives, myths, from where what we know as religion emerged. Unless you upload your mind into a computer and become some lame robot you won't be able to overcome this. No amount of secular-liberal-relativism will set you free. That's why you need art. Even though your "evolved mind" understands truth exclusively as correspondence to forms you know, something completely disconnected from art, your intuition still recognizes the truth in its original, strong mode, and that's why you can experience something "magical" through contemplation of art. Because art is symbolic language, at this point radically diluted and weakened, but still strikingly powerful nevertheless. In modern sense art becomes introverted escapism, a mere "metaphysical solace" as in Schopenhauer, but that's because the primordial meanings were all lost. Once you find the proper keys, however, you can open all the gates, unveil all the truths.
I didn't say the Spartan came and went in no time. We have been around for at least 200,000 years, most likely some 600,000-500,000 years. The Spartan way of life was closer to that of those who lived before them, going back to the dawn of time. It preserved a more primordial ethos, common to all European "barbarians", who all had similar community-oriented honor systems. What I referred as "no time" was the couple of millennia since the "awakening to the ego", to material and hedonistic individualism, vs. the hundreds of thousands of years in which people pursued honor and the common good of the tribe instead.
Right, but I think you said yourself the problem with this, they came and went in no time flat. I'm not doubting that this could work for a few centuries, but a few centuries are nothing.
We can't know if destroying the planet is part of a greater circle we can't perceive. I can't relate to a future in which we become computers or whatever, and/or are ruled by an AI god. I want my children to play outside under the trees, and their children too, and so on, and discover the same magical things I discovered so far in this lifetime and much more, all I wasn't able to because we were born oppressed by technological artificialism, a piss-poor life alienated from nature, from the truth and everything that matters...
My concern is that if we're going to cyclically destroy the planet like this, it's only a matter of time before we go extinct. This might be our best shot, and possibly out last shot, to break out of that cycle. Maybe you don't think AI is possible. Why is that? Why isn't it at least worth a shot before we fall back into the shadows? We might as well try while we got these godlike technological powers.
It's out of love for life, not contempt. If nukes are the only way back to a real life, so be it. I have extreme contempt for the meaningless life the plebeian masses live though.
If "let the nukes fall" isn't contempt for life I don't know what is.