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Post by thescientist on Mar 27, 2021 13:57:15 GMT -5
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Post by arillius on Mar 28, 2021 18:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by arillius on Mar 29, 2021 15:19:56 GMT -5
Additionally, here is an interview with Mortiis where he says he was influenced by Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream during his Emperor days. outburn.com/interviews/mortiis-back-to-the-dungeonI think it entirely incorrect to say that DS did not come out of, or was not inspired by, 70s German Electronic music. Obviously neoclassical and industrial music is included in the conversation. But when one is talking about Tangerine Dream or Klaus Schulze or any of those artists, we're talking about the godfathers of Electronic and ambient music. Enya, to me, is a stretch. I think it's a modern belief that Enya influenced DS. Simply because Enya was always associated with New Age or Celtic music back then. Hell, I bought my mom an Enya CD in 1993 because I thought she would like it. I think in a modern lens, it's easy to look back now and say Enya influenced DS, only because we can correlate ideas and sounds with what DS has evolved into. But yeah, totally different paths of music. Sure, I'd venture to say that some earlier DS people maybe enjoyed Enya, but the vast majority wouldn't even say it simply because it was not even remotely related to black metal or darker ambient music back then. If anyone can find something from the 90s that says otherwise, I'd like to see it. Dead Can Dance is most certainly an influence and if anyone knows the history of DcD, they'd know that they were on the 4AD label which housed various goth and post punk type bands in the late 80s. This is somewhat related to the darker side of things, rather than Enya. So if one is to draw DS out of black metal, I would think it safe to say most earlier DS artists were aware of, or at least knew DCD and held them in high regard due to their musical influence of the time.
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Post by crystallogic13 on Jun 6, 2021 12:22:01 GMT -5
I think arillius said it all, despite being "common" knowledge from back in the days, there are numerous interviews etc etc from especially black metal (not only though) being inspired by early electronic music.. And I totally agree also about DS having strong roots to early electronic.. And also besides electronic music, indeed Dead Can Dance being ethnic/dark wave/you name it/unique were also huuuuuge inspiration also stated by them to those DS-founding black metal artists... Also, for anyone who has lived 80s,90s etc, the "audience" of metal overlapped a lot with Gothic and Dark Wave ... Dunno about electronic music back then, maybe not much or a lot of people despite appreciating electronic music back then hesitated to show publicly since metal was back then way of life, way you dress, be fanatic metalhead etc. etc... But times has passed and I think the metal audience is today one of the most open minded (metal artists were certainly musically open minded even back then based on their listenings though )... Anyway, nice to discuss these kind of stuff, thescientist despite any disagreements it's always nice to see people promoting/researching/appreciating DS, again thanx for the effort!
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Post by ranseur on Jun 7, 2021 0:00:07 GMT -5
I haven't seen much evidence that new age was a direct influence on dungeon synth, could be wrong but it's a connection I never saw anyone making until like 2012. But the old german stuff is just a fact.
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