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Post by automatedhero on Aug 6, 2022 15:07:51 GMT -5
Suitable in the genre sense. Thanks
I do have a decent linndrum emulation (jinn drum iirc, free)
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Post by Damage Cloud on Aug 7, 2022 12:43:51 GMT -5
just get a 707 sample pack, i dont really see the point in using dedicated vsts for sample based drum machines. maybe i get it for drum synths, but those aren't really suitable for DS, just use your DAW's stock sampler Reverb put out a free set of a bunch of vintage drum machines: reverb.com/software/samples-and-loops/reverb/3514-reverb-drum-machines-the-complete-collectionyou kinda need to sort through them to find good medieval-y samples, but the Oberheim and 707 folders are a good place to start π
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Post by engraven on Aug 7, 2022 16:01:18 GMT -5
The drum patches on any keyboard/synth that is otherwise appropriate for dungeon synth will always work fine, so any VST that emulates one of those keyboard/synths and contains their drum patches will be suitable. Korg, Yamaha, Casio ... almost any emulation of one of their digital synths should feature appropriate drum patches
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Post by automatedhero on Aug 11, 2022 6:01:07 GMT -5
I can do that, but they sound a bit 'of their time'. I don't mind that, but sometimes you want something to sound less eighties pop
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Post by engraven on Aug 11, 2022 10:39:48 GMT -5
Use the orchestral drum patches, or the world percussion (80s/90s synths loved to use the term 'ethnic kits' for these) patches, not the actual drum kit patches. These do not sound like 80s pop the way the drum kit patches do.
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Post by automatedhero on Aug 15, 2022 14:10:01 GMT -5
what vst's do you recommend?
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Post by engraven on Aug 16, 2022 12:08:56 GMT -5
Again, anything you can find that fully emulates any old Yamaha, Korg, Casio, etc. with all its patches will work fine. I have either the hardware or paid VSTs for all of these, so I wouldn't be able to personally point you in the direction of a good, free one, but I'm sure they could be found googling. Korg has their own line of VSTs that are solid and much cheaper than most big companies. Arturia makes a Yamaha DX7 and a Casio CZ VST that are both good, but not as cheap. I know there are some software synths that can be loaded with soundbanks -- several years ago, I found a DX7 soundbank for free on a forum that could be loaded into Native Instruments' FM software synth. But obviously, the FM synth itself wasn't free haha. If you google around for 'free fm synth vst' you should be able to find dozens, and then you just want one that has drum patches.
There are probably like sample packs you can find even more easily, but I've always refrained from these and always try to use either a hardware synth or a full software emulation of one.
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Post by Damage Cloud on Aug 16, 2022 18:24:51 GMT -5
the dx7 is great but it doesnt have any drums on it except for weird beep-boop synth stuff. sample packs are the way to go for ds drums. any old keyboard synth with drums just has a sampler built in preloaded with samples. same with most 'realistic' drum machines like the linndrum Erang put together a dungeon synth sample pack: www.erang-dungeon-synth.com/dungeon-synth-free-samples/This is just a good all together percussion sample pack mostly focused on percussion from around the world. has some good frame drum samples for ds, but a little more hi-fi than i usually go for: cymatics.fm/products/percussion-toolkit-vol-1Legowelt just has a bunch of cool stuff: legowelt.org/samples/the cmi has some dark muffled lofi drum sounds https: //sonicbloom.net/en/free-sb-fairlight-cmi-samples/ - also you dont need an expensive emulator to run dx7 soundbanks, dexed is just as good and is free.
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Post by bartizanier on Aug 17, 2022 15:51:05 GMT -5
Spitfire Labs "Percussion" has good orchestral sounds. It all kind of depends if you want lo-fi or not, etc. But generally as others have already said drums are accomplished through samples, not standalone VSTs. Trust me I went looking for VSTs and its just a waste of time. Use samples.
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Post by automatedhero on Aug 18, 2022 10:39:14 GMT -5
I don't generally care for samples per se, though I do use the Emulator. Other than that it's the linndrum, whcih isn't always appropriate, or the m1. But the M1 sounds very eighties dance music which isn't great
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Post by engraven on Aug 18, 2022 13:59:05 GMT -5
I prefer having the envelopes and filters of a synth to run the drums through. Even if they are all samples in the end, I like having control over the sound at its source of generation, rather than only being able to lay effects on it after the fact.
That's right about the DX7, I named that one erroneously as I was just sort of going into zombie listing-synths mode lol. That one doesn't have orchestral-type drum patches. Rather, Roland's synth modules from the 90s have a wide array of them -- SRX, JV1080. If you have access to the expansions (many of them are available digitally), there are dozens/hundreds of various orchestral/'ethnic' type kits available.
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