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Post by andrewwerdna on Apr 24, 2018 22:23:30 GMT -5
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Post by Carl Shoemaker on Apr 25, 2018 5:13:34 GMT -5
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Post by andrewwerdna on Apr 25, 2018 6:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Apr 25, 2018 14:12:49 GMT -5
It's so wierd to hear someone actually say "Dungeon Synth" instead of reading it. Great topic. Love the interview with Ranseur.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Aug 3, 2018 12:11:37 GMT -5
I hadn't mentioned the great Graveyard Shift in this thread yet, a good handful of interviews there. I'm sure we're all aware of it, but just mentioning for the sake of posterity.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Aug 3, 2018 12:12:07 GMT -5
But why I'm really bumping this thread is because I want to bring up this: many of us lately talk about how DS artists should maybe not be overly engaged in social media and should leave some amount of their personality to the imagination. I've certainly brought up the fact that the social "scene" aspect of the genre should not be the focus. Long-form interviews however seem to be far more revealing of the personality of the artist than social media ever could be, and seems to be indulging in the social aspect of the genre to a very strong degree. Like some of the more experimental artists I'd much rather hear what they have to say than their actual music. But in general I love podcasts, so I would hate to say they're somehow bad for the music, but then to say podcasts are good for the music would imply that there cannot be too much social activity surrounding it, even if it overshadows the music itself... what do you guys think?
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Post by thekeeper on Aug 3, 2018 14:26:50 GMT -5
I do feel like podcasts are kind of separate from what we're talking about in terms of the 'social scene' online. I guess I see podcasts like zine interviews or something, but with another level of intimacy. You can however quite the persona or front in zine interviews but with podcasts it's immediate and candid. They're both on this same field of individual and selective instances of insight. I think our desire to retract a bit from the 'social scene' focus at the moment relates to a distaste for larger scale/open-field kinds of social dynamics that we feel conflicts with the core feel of DS that we started out with, a default feel of mystery. Not being turned off by podcasts might be due to them being more like individual instances of openness instead of something more broad and consistently in front of us. Podcasts are more isolated than social media, warm and different, and I feel the same way about forums, where it might technically be 'social media' but it's more measured and isolated. I think those of us who have recently shared this sentiment of being tired with the social aspect on some level don't want to consistently experience openness and candidness on large scales or in a centralized way, we'd rather take it in as we like. We'll read interviews in zines or on websites, talk on here a bit, listen to podcasts, but we don't want these to feel absolutely essential in our interactions with DS itself. These are bonuses, optional insights. I don't think we would've rejected podcasts if we were into DS in the mid to late 90s because mystery was the default. I think without a default of mystery, the music starts to feel overshadowed by the social scene.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Aug 3, 2018 16:21:16 GMT -5
I like that take on it. And it's not like it's a totally unprecedented aspect of modern times and the internet, considering Mortiis did loads of zine interviews throughout the 90's. And I wonder if podcasts might cultivate further mystery as well, like for example if you look at the cover and listen to a few tracks of an album and write it off as generic formulaic Tolkien stuff but then the artist talks about coming up with all melodies whilst in a deep meditative state or something, one might be more inclined to give the music a second chance and with a bit more effort the vision is revealed. I guess I am just concerned that I'm often more excited to see a new long audio interview from any given artist than I am to see a new album from them, and so I wonder if that does not place excessive value on the wrong things. But I'm going to say it's just because I've heard so much dungeon synth over the years now that for me attempting to directly engage with other perspectives on it is more valuable than just approaching more of it in the same way I always do.
And I guess these concerns are a bit different than the social media concerns at the moment? Maybe the social media concerns at the moment are more about relationship dynamics than the balance of an individual artist's public persona and artistic work?
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Post by crystallogic13 on Aug 4, 2018 9:45:14 GMT -5
Thanx for the link of Mortiis interview, cool dude and I hope as he said in the end to come up with a new dungeon album or even release his rework of the old album at his live performances.. Both would be great of course.. Good interview..
By the way. I've heard some of the other audio interviews and I want to point something. The only interview I REALLY wanted to listen but couldn't go through was Erang's. I consider him my favorite artist among the modern era of DS, BUT the distortion effect on his voice at the interview (as to keep the mystery veil) was SO hard/annoying to try to listen to, so I couldn't. What I mean? Sometimes trying to keep up the "artist's persona" maybe goes too far and just being cool like the nice interview of Mortiis can be beneficial. It depends of course, just wanted to point this out..
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Post by thewoodwose on Aug 5, 2018 2:06:56 GMT -5
Thanx for the link of Mortiis interview, cool dude and I hope as he said in the end to come up with a new dungeon album or even release his rework of the old album at his live performances.. Both would be great of course.. Good interview.. By the way. I've heard some of the other audio interviews and I want to point something. The only interview I REALLY wanted to listen but couldn't go through was Erang's. I consider him my favorite artist among the modern era of DS, BUT the distortion effect on his voice at the interview (as to keep the mystery veil) was SO hard/annoying to try to listen to, so I couldn't. What I mean? Sometimes trying to keep up the "artist's persona" maybe goes too far and just being cool like the nice interview of Mortiis can be beneficial. It depends of course, just wanted to point this out.. Doing the Erang interview was interesting for me. So far he's the only artist that stayed dedicated to anonymity to the measures he did. I really respect the fact he wanted to do an interview despite the fact he likes to keep to his persona and be anonymous. I didn't know what to expect however because it was done in a different way than my other interviews. I could detail that further, but I don't know if Erang would like me talking about how we did the interview on the forums.
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