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Post by thekeeper on Jul 23, 2018 16:44:52 GMT -5
The NS scene really has a lot of whack stuff like this which makes it look even worse than it would otherwise haha I'm trying to think of a scenario where there's anything actually worse then being identified as a national "socialist" or being silly enough to be okay with getting lumped into that crowd Not coming up with anything that has to do with music best username on the board. |
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Post by messiahcarey on Jul 23, 2018 16:53:47 GMT -5
Haha, thank you
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Post by Tyrannus on Jul 23, 2018 18:37:43 GMT -5
The NS scene really has a lot of whack stuff like this which makes it look even worse than it would otherwise haha I'm trying to think of a scenario where there's anything actually worse then being identified as a national "socialist" or being silly enough to be okay with getting lumped into that crowd Not coming up with anything that has to do with music I guess in this situation it'd be getting called a talent-less national socialist |
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Post by dungeonsnake on Jul 23, 2018 20:35:14 GMT -5
Personally, the political stuff neither excites nor offends me, but it looks like the music was taken down from youtube for violating rules.
I think it was brought up on the facebook group before, but it seems most people agree that memes and contemporary politics are generally counter-conducive to the atmosphere of Dungeon Synth. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it sounds as though this was not really Dungeon Synth in the first place. If andrewwerdna (founder of the term "Dungeon Synth") deems it to be ambient, I believe him. Probably best if this type of thing does not proliferate, but on the other hand, I am not one to advocate for censorship in any form.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Jul 23, 2018 21:02:01 GMT -5
If andrewwerdna (founder of the term "Dungeon Synth") deems it to be ambient, I believe him. Well, it must be said, these days there's a lot of stuff people celebrate as dungeon synth which I don't really consider to be, but I don't want to be going around telling people they don't belong. But in this case I found it especially annoying because it seems like this person doesn't listen to DS or even really know what it is. But then again, isn't getting annoyed by it and talking about it at all is just giving them what they want? It seems like it's just about getting the most attention for the least effort. Maybe it'd be better to just ignore this kind of shit entirely? |
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Post by Tyrannus on Jul 23, 2018 22:58:08 GMT -5
If andrewwerdna (founder of the term "Dungeon Synth") deems it to be ambient, I believe him. Well, it must be said, these days there's a lot of stuff people celebrate as dungeon synth which I don't really consider to be, but I don't want to be going around telling people they don't belong. But in this case I found it especially annoying because it seems like this person doesn't listen to DS or even really know what it is. But then again, isn't getting annoyed by it and talking about it at all is just giving them what they want? It seems like it's just about getting the most attention for the least effort. Maybe it'd be better to just ignore this kind of shit entirely? I agree, I think ignoring stuff you dislike is often more effective than giving it too much attention |
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Post by charlesthebald on Jul 24, 2018 8:59:37 GMT -5
National Socialist Dungeon Synth  well there isnt a great deal to say about that !!! |
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Post by stormcrow on Jul 25, 2018 1:44:14 GMT -5
as we said a lot of times: dungeon synth, today, is just a useful tag. Tagging music as "dungeon synth" can be helpful to promote our music on BC, FB and so.... Real dungeon synth music, I mean real DS styling, is a matter of a VERY FEW contemporary artists (early Thangorodrim, for instance) and legendary names such as Mortiis, Mournlord, Pazuzu, Wongraven etc. My "band" is not strictly Dungeon Synth too, I could call it "soundtrack synth" or "dark cinematic ambient", maybe?  90% of nowadays synth artists are not DS at all. Honestly, I can't tell that Burzum himself plays DS music. Prison-albums are mostly ritualistic or minimal folk-ambient stuff.... nothing to share with DS in terms of styiling. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 5:25:05 GMT -5
as we said a lot of times: dungeon synth, today, is just a useful tag. Tagging music as "dungeon synth" can be helpful to promote our music on BC, FB and so.... Real dungeon synth music, I mean real DS styling, is a matter of a VERY FEW contemporary artists (early Thangorodrim, for instance) and legendary names such as Mortiis, Mournlord, Pazuzu, Wongraven etc. My "band" is not strictly Dungeon Synth too, I could call it "soundtrack synth" or "dark cinematic ambient", maybe? 90% of nowadays synth artists are not DS at all. Honestly, I can't tell that Burzum himself plays DS music. Prison-albums are mostly ritualistic or minimal folk-ambient stuff.... nothing to share with DS in terms of styiling. I wouldn't call Pazuzu " Dungeon Synth " either. At the time we used to call that " dark ritual ". |
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Post by Tyrannus on Jul 25, 2018 7:20:57 GMT -5
as we said a lot of times: dungeon synth, today, is just a useful tag. Tagging music as "dungeon synth" can be helpful to promote our music on BC, FB and so.... Real dungeon synth music, I mean real DS styling, is a matter of a VERY FEW contemporary artists (early Thangorodrim, for instance) and legendary names such as Mortiis, Mournlord, Pazuzu, Wongraven etc. My "band" is not strictly Dungeon Synth too, I could call it "soundtrack synth" or "dark cinematic ambient", maybe? 90% of nowadays synth artists are not DS at all. Honestly, I can't tell that Burzum himself plays DS music. Prison-albums are mostly ritualistic or minimal folk-ambient stuff.... nothing to share with DS in terms of styiling. What defines the genre to you? Whatβs the point of saying that only a handful of albums are βrealβ DS? Isnβt this just the same True Dungeon Synth bs we dealt with last year? Feel free to move this to the βboring semantic argument that weβve had 1,000 timesβ thread |
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Post by stormcrow on Jul 25, 2018 12:47:28 GMT -5
Maybe artists that really give the feel of being in a dark dungeon, abandoned castle, ruined tower etc? Of course I was not saying the rest is crap. Just different. To stay in topic: joke or serious NS thing? |
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Jul 25, 2018 18:22:01 GMT -5
I agree, this isn't DS. It also goes right into Saria's Song just before the 11 minute mark. Weird post-ironic meme-magic /pol/ theme. Not very good. Yeah I agree that it's odd to approach it from this very /pol/ meme angle. It's hard to tell if this is some kind of parody or something like that. Is the OP here Douglas McQuerter? If so, did you also make the music? I've always found the Winter Solace approach to this topic sort of odd, though there are some good releases on there. But then you have stuff like this: www.discogs.com/Kek-Misty-Woods-Of-Kekistan/release/10704722I died laughing from this one. Couldn't handle the Theodor Kittelsen refrence. It almost seems like it really is actually a parody of NS stuff. Edit: Looked now at the tracklist. Defenilty a parody :\ |
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Post by dungeonsnake on Jul 25, 2018 19:37:38 GMT -5
If andrewwerdna (founder of the term "Dungeon Synth") deems it to be ambient, I believe him. Well, it must be said, these days there's a lot of stuff people celebrate as dungeon synth which I don't really consider to be, but I don't want to be going around telling people they don't belong. But in this case I found it especially annoying because it seems like this person doesn't listen to DS or even really know what it is. But then again, isn't getting annoyed by it and talking about it at all is just giving them what they want? It seems like it's just about getting the most attention for the least effort. Maybe it'd be better to just ignore this kind of shit entirely? I don't know, I suppose I disagree. I think discussion is fine, I think it's beneficial for us to talk things out. I guess if enough of this thing appears, then it would naturally become ignored. I think everybody here has been pretty unanimous as decrying this particular aesthetic as being anathema to our collective vision. I doubt "NSDS" will become a major part of our community. Then again, I've been wrong before. |
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Post by kktz on Jul 26, 2018 11:09:26 GMT -5
Well I am sure lot's of 90's DS was influenced by Burzum and "anti-modernist" ways of neo-heathenism. But not openly political as I know. Not really interested in politics, it's all corrupted, just noticing.
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Post by cosmicweaponofthule on Jul 29, 2018 8:19:41 GMT -5
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well there isnt a great deal to say about that !!!
