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Post by Daytol on Aug 21, 2021 11:47:21 GMT -5
since on Facebook, every GREAT conversation I've read if I don't "save" to read later is lost in the damn "wall" format of Facebook which can only go so much back in time and you're #@$^ed if you miss for some time and want to catch up, you'll simply scroll endlessly till FB decides it's enough way back in time :/ Heh, I'm sure I'll have to knuckle under and eventually get a Facebook account but I've been staying away from them for years, and that's one of the reasons why  My vector gaming forums aren't real busy (they used to get 4-5,000 posts a year, which wasn't bad, but then Atari Age added a Vectrex sub-forum and the Vectrex Fans Unite! Facebook page were created so my forums have been slow ever since  ) but those that are on the Unite! FB account say my forums are much better organized, with "classic" and "current/future" gaming stuff separated, along with non-gaming sub-forums as well. Unless Facebook does a major restructuring forums are ALWAYS going to be better organized than them. But anyway... In general let me one more time take the time to post how much I appreciate this gem of the genre which, along with other genres also in the past, has being like opening an ENDLESS treasure chest that keeps on giving... Dungeon Synth is one of the very few genres nowadays I **try** to keep up since I don't want to lose any underground undiscovered gem of music, but it's a never ending battle as the backlog always increases which is to be honest, a GREAT thing since it shows DS keeps getting bigger and bigger... I used to say that my favorite kinds of music are death metal and new age until the last Dungeon Siege concert a few months back, after seeing three to four nights of Dungeon Synth/dark ambient/space synth (one guy was) with such a huge variety, so now my statement is no longer true: now my favorite music genres are death metal and dungeon synth  |
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Post by crystallogic13 on Aug 21, 2021 13:29:26 GMT -5
freshman in college and had access to a T3 connection and file sharing. and I also loved the old Emperor and Satyricon interludes and intros and stuff, and bands like Mithotyn that had lo fi folky synthy parts. Man you really woke up my early internet days up there, I remember using late napster in mid-late 2000 when it was already dying (and audiogalaxy with kazaa coming to replace it) and seeing some "DSL", "T1" or "T3" from Scandinavian countries usually was a happy day to get some decent 4.8kb/s max speed on my 56kbps modem  And all that while praying the download of the song want get cut before you get it... Time flies really.. Never heard of Mithotyn so thanks for mentioning, I'll look into it .. And yeah I think if we can count early (mostly Black) Metal Dungeon Synth interludes and stuff a lot and I think a lot lot of people who discovered sooner or later DS have come from that crowd (me included)... Too many early era people to mention that got us many into DS, but Vikerness/Burzum, Mortiis who's been on Mayhem, so many others, also of COURSE my favorite Summoning, all played a vital role into introducing usually hard maniac metalheads the joy of some dark ambience and synths !! It's a similar nice trip many people have and always relate the discovery later or the early era when we were thinking "now what this kind of great music is called and is there any more of it somewhere else?" used to say that my favorite kinds of music are death metal and new age until the last Dungeon Siege concert a few months back, after seeing three to four nights of Dungeon Synth/dark ambient/space synth (one guy was) with such a huge variety, so now my statement is no longer true: now my favorite music genres are death metal and dungeon synth Glad to read these stories mate, and trust me most of us are still scratching on the genre, there's always some hidden unknown gem somewhere released, there's always some other release you've been waiting already (Erang's new currently first comes to mind on my most anticipated but there are so many), always a physical you gonna keep an eye on and pull the trigger (I'm not doing physical nowadays in general but for example last year I bought Quest Master's one, couldn't resist any longer).. There's always sometinh around the corner to discover!! p.s. Daytold I see you 're into gaming a lot (this is the way ), another important demographic which overlapses many metal fans,RPG fans and other common ground for many people in the DS realm, we need to liven up the Video Games/cRPGs threads we have in the forum too I think |
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Post by Daytol on Aug 21, 2021 14:03:19 GMT -5
And yeah I think if we can count early (mostly Black) Metal Dungeon Synth interludes and stuff a lot and I think a lot lot of people who discovered sooner or later DS have come from that crowd (me included)...all played a vital role into introducing usually hard maniac metalheads the joy of some dark ambience and synths !! Yeah, that stuff was always going on here and there. Not many people only listen to one genre ever, like how Tom Araya of Slayer once said "if I listen to metal too much I get sick of it"; hell yeah! Take the severe death metal band Brutality (not real original but they did some killer albums, likened somewhat to Morbid Angel) but they did a beautiful keyboard/clean guitar instrumental on their debut album (one of my all-time favorite ambient instrumentals, I guess you would call it): It's a similar nice trip many people have and always relate the discovery later or the early era when we were thinking "now what this kind of great music is called and is there any more of it somewhere else?" It's funny to go back to the origins when the stuff wasn't really named, as on Mortiis's first cd he called it "dark electronics", which was also a phrase that the guy who ran the label he was on of Cold Meat also called it too in an interview I read with him. p.s. Daytold I see you 're into gaming a lot (this is the way ), another important demographic which overlapses many metal fans,RPG fans and other common ground for many people in the DS realm, we need to liven up the Video Games/cRPGs threads we have in the forum too I think Unfortunately there's not many of us on here that post all over the place, as I'm already on page 2 of the highest posters when you click on Members and then for a list on Posts, yet I haven't even posted 60 times yet. Most people just post on the "what dungeon synth are you listening to now" thread or they're musicians posting about their just-released works. I was really surprised when I checked on my Proboards Dashboard this morning (good to have if you're on at least two forums or more so all activity is shown there on one page) and found a whopping five threads I had posted on in the last few weeks were suddenly replied to last night. Usually it's just one here and there. Here I posted about the Harp Twins and the "top 10 dungeon synth tracks" weeks ago and they were only just now replied to. Other forums that I do stuff like that on and they're usually replied to in a few hours The other problem is I don't know a lot about RPGs. One of my top systems ever (#2 actually) is the Sega Genesis but it didn't really have a lot of RPGs. Ys 3 on it was a rather average game but with a GREAT soundtrack; I know I recorded like 27 minutes worth of music from it. Sorceror's Kingdom was a better one that also had good music/I taped a bit from that too. Other games I only have a couple of tracks here and there from. I don't know how many RPGs there are for the Wii but maybe I'll run across some, as there aren't many other platforms I have that had games with enough memory and/or soundchips to do soundtracks on (other ones include the Vectrex and Atari 2600, the latter of which barely had any back in the day, and almost zero soundtracks due to hardly any memory!). Good observation though |
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Post by crystallogic13 on Aug 21, 2021 14:32:06 GMT -5
Just listened to Brutality's "Sympathy" you posted, great track indeed, bookmarked it.. Death Metal was always too brutal for my taste but I'm I appreciate a lot of various stuff, my biggest favorite being of course the king of swedish death Dark Tranquillity, many great albums but "The Gallery" still haunts me to this day, listened it way back in highschool in good old days.... a Perfect 10/10 album, a monumental album imho, every single a song being a killer.. But "Lethe" specifically totally shatters and *disintegrates* especially if you can relate ... Regarding the forum activity, yes as with most if not all forums today and discussed here too, social media have taken a big hit.. For various reasons its now "faster" to post there than going seperately to a forum and make a longer maybe even more "formal" post as to not be called a spammer, so while people certainly logs and reads, is even afraid to "bump" or "spam" and instead of making a wave of posts that liven the place people get even quieter... But I think as soon as anyone has anything to say he's welcome to do it in this forum, this place and genre would benefit I believe.. So just anyone reading this rant, post whenever you feel like, nobody's gonna call you, instead it's very much appreciated (yes any post, here, on the shoutbox, promoting your art or label or just a rant, everything has something to add to this place).. Well, about RPGs, you're in good hands (I'll try to post there/related thread) if you reply on that, but since I read you're mostly a console gamer and console RPGs are somewhat different from traditional home computer ones, I'll make a starter recommendation (if you aren't a starter on the genre excuse me mate, I'll return with more recs dont worry) and propose you to play the cult classics essentials of Infinity Engine.. Planescape Torment, Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and Icewind Dale 1 & 2... Totally 100% WELL spent time of your life (might take some months ) ...
p.s. EDit : I forgot Planescape Torment, the best and my favorite of the IE games and in general ever!! Be sure to play it before the others since on BG2 you will find moments of nostalgia if you've gone already through PS:T
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Post by Daytol on Aug 22, 2021 23:39:19 GMT -5
Just listened to Brutality's "Sympathy" you posted, great track indeed, bookmarked it.. Awesome! Nuclear Blast put them on pretty much every compilation cd and even vhs tape they released and had them double-headline a tour with Hypocrisy at one point to not really having them take off whatsoever. Sure, they weren't very original but their first three albums killed (don't know about afterwards since I haven't gotten anything since, looks like I need to catch up ). my biggest favorite being of course the king of swedish death Dark Tranquillity They've definitely earned respect in the underground. Think I've heard some of their stuff recorded from a late night radio show in Houston that plays severe metal but I can't recall for sure. Regarding the forum activity, yes as with most if not all forums today and discussed here too, social media have taken a big hit.. Some say Facebook isn't to blame but they sure are. Depends on a few factors and circumstance, I suppose, but that's usually the culprit. For various reasons its now "faster" to post there than going seperately to a forum and make a longer maybe even more "formal" post as to not be called a spammer, so while people certainly logs and reads, is even afraid to "bump" or "spam" and instead of making a wave of posts that liven the place people get even quieter.. I don't think people will think that but then I haven't read every single post possible on here (hence why I missed my not needed repeat of "what got you into dungeon synth" post when I could've just bumped the old one). Don't know if I missed some earlier drama or anything. So just anyone reading this rant, post whenever you feel like, nobody's gonna call you, instead it's very much appreciated (yes any post, here, on the shoutbox, promoting your art or label or just a rant, everything has something to add to this place).. I second the notion! I'll make a starter recommendation (if you aren't a starter on the genre excuse me mate, I'll return with more recs dont worry) Yeah, not a "starter" (the Genesis ended over 20 years ago!) but I don't know a whole lot about them either in general. Haven't played a whole lot of them. and propose you to play the cult classics essentials of Infinity Engine.. Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and Icewind Dale 1 & 2... Totally 100% WELL spent time of your life (might take some months ) Heh, yeah. Heard pretty good things about those games, especially if sequels were done! |
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Post by jorvvik on Aug 23, 2021 1:56:58 GMT -5
Some interesting reading on this thread. I got into DS via a YouTube recommendation, I had always been into hardware synths so my feed was full of that stuff and I also play a lot of games like Elder Scrolls, Witcher 3 and Kingdom Come: Deliverence. I think my YouTube just combined the two and one day suggested me Fief V and I gave it a listen and absolutely loved it. I made a Bandcamp account the next morning and bought a few different albums, never looked back since.
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Post by mahrgdidj on Aug 23, 2021 9:29:27 GMT -5
Impressed by how many folks found DS through random YouTube suggestions, I guess I should trust the algorithm a bit more. My first exposure to DS was the cover for Thangorodrim’s Taur nu Fuin. A friend posted it on Facebook and just the name “Dungeon Synth” with that image of a dude in corpsepaint was instantly appealing. Listening to it I was actually kinda disappointed haha, I was not expecting dramatic brooding film score! Years later that same friend posted Fogweaver’s self titled and the artwork drew me in again. I was stunned that this album sounded nothing like the first Dungeon Synth stuff I had heard. That opened me up to the potential for this genre to include such tremendous variety. Every new album I put on feels like opening a treasure chest, no idea what’s inside.
(I have since come to appreciate Thango. I “get it” now)
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Post by Daytol on Aug 23, 2021 13:17:19 GMT -5
Years later that same friend posted Fogweaver’s self titled A good way to get you started on DS with Fogweaver That opened me up to the potential for this genre to include such tremendous variety. Yep. All kinds of stuff, from the kind of cheesy, video game-sounding to the more fuzzy, powerful stuff, battle synth, space synth (actually the latter's been around for quite a while too), comfy synth, those that add percussion, actual string instruments (rather than the manufactured from keyboard kind), etc., etc. (I have since come to appreciate Thango. I “get it” now) Sometimes you don't get things the first time around! |
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Post by andrewwerdna on Aug 27, 2021 0:03:08 GMT -5
Regarding the forum activity, yes as with most if not all forums today and discussed here too, social media have taken a big hit.. For various reasons its now "faster" to post there than going seperately to a forum and make a longer maybe even more "formal" post as to not be called a spammer, so while people certainly logs and reads, is even afraid to "bump" or "spam" and instead of making a wave of posts that liven the place people get even quieter... But I think as soon as anyone has anything to say he's welcome to do it in this forum, this place and genre would benefit I believe.. So just anyone reading this rant, post whenever you feel like, nobody's gonna call you, instead it's very much appreciated (yes any post, here, on the shoutbox, promoting your art or label or just a rant, everything has something to add to this place).. Alright, I'll bite. While reading this I was thinking "man, I'm really enjoying this discussion but can't think of anything to add." So that's it, just want to say I'm really enjoying reading this thread! |
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Post by crystallogic13 on Aug 29, 2021 4:34:49 GMT -5
They've definitely earned respect in the underground. Think I've heard some of their stuff recorded from a late night radio show in Houston that plays severe metal but I can't recall for sure. Mate you should definitely definitely listen start to end, repeatedly "The Gallery", it's a perfect flawless 100% gem of an album, then you can explore the rest of their great discography, but until you do, please (salesman mode on ) DO yourself a favor, and listen to this perfect album For various reasons its now "faster" to post there than going seperately to a forum and make a longer maybe even more "formal" post as to not be called a spammer, so while people certainly logs and reads, is even afraid to "bump" or "spam" and instead of making a wave of posts that liven the place people get even quieter.. I don't think people will think that but then I haven't read every single post possible on here (hence why I missed my not needed repeat of "what got you into dungeon synth" post when I could've just bumped the old one). Don't know if I missed some earlier drama or anything. No mate, thankfully this forum (unlike the troubled FB pages..) is drama-free I think , everyone here despite the anonymity of the nicknames is acting as should, like grown up people (and in the mighty rare circumstance of any drama everything is solved directly via PMs which is the best way if there's any issue that doesn't care the rest of the community) .. Alright, I'll bite. While reading this I was thinking "man, I'm really enjoying this discussion but can't think of anything to add." So that's it, just want to say I'm really enjoying reading this thread! Haha glad you do Anrew, always nice to see you around!! |
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Post by Daytol on Aug 29, 2021 18:06:25 GMT -5
No mate, thankfully this forum (unlike the troubled FB pages..) is drama-free I think , everyone here despite the anonymity of the nicknames is acting as should, like grown up peopleest of the community) .. What a concept! I think you're right too, I've seen quite a bit of threads all over the place here since I've joined and I've only seen one where someone kind of went off, overreacting a little, I thought, and that was it. One out of over 16,000 posts on here isn't bad at all (and in the mighty rare circumstance of any drama everything is solved directly via PMs which is the best way if there's any issue that doesn't care the rest of the community) .. Good point. Be nice if people were to think that way! After all, you're discussing, the majority of the time here, one of THE greatest music genres ever, in my opinion. So why argue? |
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Post by Daytol on Aug 31, 2021 13:12:59 GMT -5
Mate you should definitely definitely listen start to end, repeatedly "The Gallery", it's a perfect flawless 100% gem of an album If the opening track is any indication then you're probably right Just listened to "Punish My Heaven" the other day, having many different, great technical guitar riffs, but then that's no surprise considering that Christopher Amott's in the group. |
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Post by haudhotd on Sept 3, 2021 17:10:05 GMT -5
Summoning, Eldamar, Emyn Muil, and Gauldur led me to Dungeon Synth.
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Post by Balin on Sept 4, 2021 11:31:34 GMT -5
Uff, My first Dungeon synth releases, that got me into it, were: The Forges Fire by Forges Fire, Another World Another Time by Erang, Leaving the shire by Hobbit, More True Than Time Thought by Hedge Wizard and maybe the most important old school dungeon synth release for me: The 96'Demo by Maelifell
Before, Summoning or bands with a similar amount of keyboard use (for example DSBM or other Atmo Black) were always favourites of Black Metal for me, as they always provided a nice contrast to their fast as well as aggressive genre colleagues. Once I came across the Burzum cover "the crying orc" by Lord Lidivicus, the world of Dungeon Synth opened up to me, in which I recognised a deeper fascination and a great wealth of facets alongside my passion for Black Metal. And well, now I am here
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Post by Daytol on Sept 4, 2021 13:39:33 GMT -5
and maybe the most important old school dungeon synth release for me: The 96'Demo by Maelifell That's crazy since someone had posted an archive a few weeks ago of the record label he (they?) were on! I like his 2000 untitled tape myself. And we're glad you are as you help expand one of THE greatest music genres on the planet! |
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My vector gaming forums aren't real busy (they used to get 4-5,000 posts a year, which wasn't bad, but then Atari Age added a Vectrex sub-forum and the Vectrex Fans Unite! Facebook page were created so my forums have been slow ever since 
) but those that are on the Unite! FB account say my forums are much better organized, with "classic" and "current/future" gaming stuff separated, along with non-gaming sub-forums as well. Unless Facebook does a major restructuring forums are ALWAYS going to be better organized than them. But anyway...
And all that while praying the download of the song want get cut before you get it... Time flies really.. Never heard of Mithotyn so thanks for mentioning, I'll look into it .. And yeah I think if we can count early (mostly Black) Metal Dungeon Synth interludes and stuff a lot and I think a lot lot of people who discovered sooner or later DS have come from that crowd (me included)... Too many early era people to mention that got us many into DS, but Vikerness/Burzum, Mortiis who's been on Mayhem, so many others, also of COURSE my favorite Summoning, all played a vital role into introducing usually hard maniac metalheads the joy of some dark ambience and synths !! It's a similar nice trip many people have and always relate the discovery later or the early era when we were thinking "now what this kind of great music is called and is there any more of it somewhere else?" 
