Has anyone used iOS versions of the Korg vsts? Those seem to be on sale right now (while the Legacy collection proper VSTs are not), and I'm curious to try one...
I have the Korg collection on windows but i rarely use it. I discovered the Supersonico VST synth instead, a great cheap instrument which sounds pretty vintage and it's easy to use. I recommend it! I will surely use it for my next album which will be out (I hope) on april 2018 through an Italian record label.
hi, no Supersonico on Ruins, just the Glass Viper from QuikQuak and a free drum-machine emulator. I still use the Glass Viper a lot, awesome plugin at a reasonable price! Just a fact about Supersonico: on my next album (that will be out soon as D&D-inspired RPG "Strange Magic"'s soudtrack) I used it for a track called "Beware the Gelatinous Cube". I had a great time composing a song about such a strange creature!!!
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Post by andrewwerdna on Feb 15, 2018 12:32:49 GMT -5
I've posted about this on the Facebook page, but I might as well mention it here too, I highly recommend getting Roland Cloud. The JV1080 is like the perfect swiss army knife of a dungeon synthesizer. It could be the only instrument you ever use for a lifetime. The D50 is super cool as well. I'm pretty sure Varg used a D50 at some point or other. And the SRX Orchestra expansion was just released and wow, this is like made for DS. Almost every preset fits for the style.
Post by andrewwerdna on Feb 16, 2018 9:35:27 GMT -5
I hope I'm not annoying anyone by continuing to ramble about this Roland Cloud stuff, but it's just really exciting to me how readily accessible these instruments are now, because I really think they're ideal for this genre, and thought so about these actual hardware instruments before Roland Cloud even came along (although mostly just from research, not from direct experience).
I forgot the mention the Sound Canvas. It's awesome. I've been using an older version of the Sound Canvas for some years now, and I tell you what, if you want like a perfect framework to stay focused, the sound canvas is it. Dungeon synth and general midi, like bread and butter, you cannot go wrong. It's the best for traditional composition, and it's great for when you just need a solid and familiar timpani, harp, pizz, piano, string, choir, etc. Nothing here will ever get old for me. This is basically the best of the old DOS game sounds:
Post by andrewwerdna on Feb 20, 2018 7:24:17 GMT -5
Hey, I found a really cool VST, called Purity. It's relatively new, but closely follows the formula of the 90's romplers/workstations, and it seems to totally have that sound as well. So that's really interesting because we've heard most of those samples from the Roland and Korg romplers a million times, like the JV series or the M1, not only are they everywhere in DS but they're everywhere in 90's music. So this is really cool because it's that same palette but with totally fresh paint; I've never seen this VST mentioned by a dungeon synth musician. I'm not going to purchase this myself yet, primarily because I want to get my moneys worth out of my Roland Cloud subscription so I don't want to lose focuse, but for fifty bucks I think that's totally worth it. Anyone who loves the M1 and/or Wavestation and wants something new, definitely give this a shot. Anybody who is just starting out and is looking for one solid instrument to give them everything they need for dungeon synth, but wants an instrument that's not so already well-established (as the M1 for instance), this one should definitely be considered. There's a free demo without having to sign up for anything.
andrewwerdna , I love soundcanvas midi sounds. Sean uses an sc-155 for Taur Nu Fuin and Volund. Guitar Pro works pretty well for composing with the same sounds on the computer, but I'd figure it's easier to manipulate sounds with the actual hardware or virtualized with a midi controller. Maybe I'll pick one up one day.
Purity sounds great. Really went for some jazzy nu-disco and 80s city-pop sounds on the video and soundclouds examples.
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Post by andrewwerdna on Feb 20, 2018 23:11:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I had read that Taur Nu Fuin used that. I think I remember reading Verminaard uses the Sound Canvas as well. I didn't know Guitar Pro had those sounds, but I definitely approve of Guitar Pro DS now.
I'm not sure the Purity examples on that page really do it justice, at least for how it could be used for DS. This soundcloud page is linked from there though and there's a lot of cool tracks, a few that are explicitly Purity demos (check out Village of the Moon Elves). Good fantasy video game type music: soundcloud.com/haganesteel
I was in my teens in the 90s so have been lusting after gear for quite a while. My job involves sitting at computers all day, so when I mess around with music I prefer hardware and use DAWs as only as glorified 4 track recorders and to mix & EQ, and I don't use softsynths because I can't sit there clicking and typing for 14+ hours a day any more. Hence me being in to hardware.
I hope it will be useful to dump my thoughts about synths for this genre. Lots of great stuff in this thread, by folks who certainly know their stuff, and I am going to be repeating some of it in an attempt to do quite a wide overview - so apologies in advance for that.
Also please correct me where I have gone wrong!
There is so much hardware out there, I tend to group it by style of synthesis, or application, in an attempt to categorise things. I'll also be keeping it mostly cheap (<300), common & 80s/90s. In rough order of usefulness for DS;
1) ROMplers, Vector Synths, early waveshapers
Very out-of-fashion with techno/electronic folks so cheap as chips. Also quite a few of the modules come with thin & orchestral percussion sounds which are crap for contemporary dance & electronica, but perfect for DS.
Great example of that is the early E-Mu Proteus range - Proteus 1, 2 & 3. Cheap as hell. Also a great source of more orchestral sounds, ensemble sounds... the orchestral ones are DS in a box and can be found for < 100.
Yamaha: SY/TG range. TG are the rackmount/module versions, and as such, they tend to be more expensive than the keyboard counterparts. More pricey are some the earlier 12-bit versions, because of the grainy character -- the TG-33 tends to be most expensive because of this, and the nifty joystick.
Kawai: always overlooked, rackmount versions available. K1, K3, K1r etc. Good workhorse synths for any musician IMO. Can make good controller keyboards too IIRC.
Korg: many. The Wavestation was big. Also DW, EX, M1/3/R, T1/2/3/r, 01/03 up to X1/2/etc. To be honest I would avoid the M1 as was hugely popular, the DW-6000 & DW-8000 were great and tend to be overlooked.
Roland D-range; D10, D50, 110. Also the JV, JW range but that's getting a bit more modern-sounding.
Ensoniq SQ-1 & R, similar architectures to the above.
Peavey DPMs, if you can find them might be worth checking out.
Also if you see a synth by Hohner google it, they rebadged synths by other manufacturers for the european market around this time.
Generally speaking for DS I would go for the earlier versions of all of the above, for their more dirty charms.
2) Related to the above, "General MIDI" boxes
Sound Canvas, Roland MT-32 most famously. Roland MT 100, SC, CM range. These things were designed to play audio for 8-bit etc games and so are perfect for the chiptuney end of things, and not for sound design. andrewwerdna covered these nicely above. Generally for DS, any weird lookin box with the "GENERAL MIDI" logo is likely to be cheap, and a winner.
3) Digital FM Synthesis & friends
Best-known is the Yamaha DX 7. Quite a few in the family - 21, 27, 100. TX are rackmount. The TX81Z is the daddy from that area, if I remember rightly. The FB-01 was a cheaper, half-rack alternative.
Modern cheap digi FM - reface DX or (better IMO) Volca FM. On the release of the Volca FM it sold out and a lot of second hand DX7's started appearing on the market. Volca FM backward-compatible with DX7 patches and more expressive. Not sure why i haven't bought a Volca FM to be honest.
Other manufacturers at the time came up with FM-like synthesis they couldn't call FM, but sounds similar, e.g. Casio iPD synthesis -- Casio CZ & VZ range. CZ's have been flying just under the radar for a looong time, and are loved by techno/electronica types.
Those machines are classic techno machines & proper synths so not as cheap as romplers. Editing their sounds is equally painful, however. On the upside, they are more likely to hold their value.
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