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Post by Ananoriel on Mar 27, 2017 17:51:05 GMT -5
I know Lamentation for a while now, and I enjoy the music from time to time (pretty often really). I wasn't aware that they were nazi/fascist. Somehow I don't care about that that much as long they are not too extreme or using it in lyrical themes. Most Bm artists are, and meh, I can't be bothered by it tbh.
I didn't knew about the name change neither, I prefer Lamentation too. Fits perfectly with the music, a bit gloomy. One of my favourite tapes/albums of them is Eine Symphonie Der Nacht. It is simple when it comes to instrumentation, but that is also what makes it beautiful and intriguing to me. And I do love the organ they used!
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Post by Tyrannus on Mar 27, 2017 21:44:54 GMT -5
Lamentation is not nazi-related, but their bm project Der Sturmer is. As far as I know, Lamentation has no political leaning.
Edit: This is why it's so confusing when this gets brought up for no reason...
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Post by velkaarn on Mar 30, 2017 12:34:23 GMT -5
Lamentation worship! Lately my favorite Lamentation release has been As ShadowKingdom Comes to my Sight, which is extremely underrated and unique in my opinion. I still need to try and track down Eine Symphonie der Nacht as well. Edit: Just ordered Eine Symphonie der Nacht from Discogs. Now all I need is Whispers from Carmilla's Tomb to complete my collection. Keep checking discogs for the Carmilla single. I got mine for like $5 direct from one of the members. Saw them getting posted regularly for a bit. Really great tape. Strange how Lamentation has seemed to have little audible influence over a lot of modern artists. You don't hear the 'crypt piano' kind of sound all that often or even the dusty gothic influence, except the new Crypt of Carmilla project is the like the spiritual successor to Lamentation (finally). You have that Whispers... "single tape" I spotted on Discogs a while ago? By members do you mean one of the DS members/former Lamentation members? I was wondering about that since I was under the impression it was just dubbed and spread around like that instead of having a cover and that tape looks really like a bootleg someone whipped up using the Nachtkaiser interview image from 666 'zine I posted on the blog plus the Lamentation logo I used for the Whispers... entry, and then fiddled around to make it look older and worn. Then again I am highly suspicious of Discogs (and eBay sellers) when it comes to old and "old" tapes. My fascination with Lamentation should not be a surprise to anyone familiar with my blog and I think I've mentioned them here before. Good to see the music appreciated by others as well. Personally I like the last demo tape least, I think it just works better as dreary instrumental material but it's okay too. As for politics, it has nothing to do with Lamentation. I can't say for sure but I think the name change had to do with the members' turn to full HD nazism in the later half of the 90's. Unfortunately the 666 'zine interview had no insights to that, though I have a vague recollection it was discussed somewhere. Or it might be something as mundane as there being several other bands using the same name and they were going to do a full length album next (it was supposed to be titled "Grabens Symphonie" but then it ended up being the compilation of the firs two demos) which may have lead to issues? TallennaTallenna
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Post by thekeeper on Mar 30, 2017 13:53:48 GMT -5
Keep checking discogs for the Carmilla single. I got mine for like $5 direct from one of the members. Saw them getting posted regularly for a bit. Really great tape. Strange how Lamentation has seemed to have little audible influence over a lot of modern artists. You don't hear the 'crypt piano' kind of sound all that often or even the dusty gothic influence, except the new Crypt of Carmilla project is the like the spiritual successor to Lamentation (finally). You have that Whispers... "single tape" I spotted on Discogs a while ago? By members do you mean one of the DS members/former Lamentation members? I was wondering about that since I was under the impression it was just dubbed and spread around like that instead of having a cover and that tape looks really like a bootleg someone whipped up using the Nachtkaiser interview image from 666 'zine I posted on the blog plus the Lamentation logo I used for the Whispers... entry, and then fiddled around to make it look older and worn. Then again I am highly suspicious of Discogs (and eBay sellers) when it comes to old and "old" tapes. My fascination with Lamentation should not be a surprise to anyone familiar with my blog and I think I've mentioned them here before. Good to see the music appreciated by others as well. Personally I like the last demo tape least, I think it just works better as dreary instrumental material but it's okay too. As for politics, it has nothing to do with Lamentation. I can't say for sure but I think the name change had to do with the members' turn to full HD nazism in the later half of the 90's. Unfortunately the 666 'zine interview had no insights to that, though I have a vague recollection it was discussed somewhere. Or it might be something as mundane as there being several other bands using the same name and they were going to do a full length album next (it was supposed to be titled "Grabens Symphonie" but then it ended up being the compilation of the firs two demos) which may have lead to issues? TallennaTallennaHe said he started dubbing them off of his original and just xeroxed his original insert. He says he's an original member but I didn't really ask him about it. There's a wolfhook drawn on the label of the tape, ha. I've seen maybe three or four sold since then.
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Post by Tyrannus on Apr 2, 2017 23:00:20 GMT -5
Oh unrelated but was it you who wrote that DS article for bandcamp? If so, nicely done!
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Post by thekeeper on Apr 3, 2017 1:24:55 GMT -5
Saw I had this picture saved. Rare variant. Can't remember exactly where this picture came from, but I feel like it was posted to the Facebook group like a month ago or so.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 5:34:10 GMT -5
If you like Lamentation, you will likely appreciate this gem. Moisty gothic dungeon synth from a decrepit crypt.
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Post by thekeeper on Apr 21, 2017 11:07:38 GMT -5
If you like Lamentation, you will likely appreciate this gem. Moisty gothic dungeon synth from a decrepit crypt. Really underrated 90s tape (lucky to own this one, too)
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Post by menziesii on Apr 28, 2017 14:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by crushingteeth on Jan 13, 2018 4:16:42 GMT -5
Some people don't want to support nazis. Get over it. I think that's fine, I just don't know why you felt the need to post in this thread just to put your political opinions out there. You have nine posts on this board so I don't know why you felt compelled to be virtue signaling so intensely. We get it, genocide is bad. That's sort of a given in most basic systems of morality. You're not helping or educating anyone by bluntly shoving your nose into a conversation that doesn't even have anything to do with politics. This is why people think SJWs are a thing, because some people don't know when is an appropriate time to discuss politics online. It invalidates your viewpoint to not be able to exercise some self-restraint. Back to discussing actual music, I can't quite get into the Crypt of Carmilla project as much as other people seem to. I much prefer the original Lamentation myself. It is odd that there's not more piano-focused stuff out there... This thread is about Lamentation appreciation, so in the spirit of good discussion why do you feel the need to put down an opinion on the fact (or at least the very good chance) that the dude is a Neo-Nazi? There's nothing SJW about disliking, or not supporting Nazi's. I agree with others that you can pirate the music if you don't appreciate his political stance (which I personally encourage). Also, making claims that he doesn't have enough posts on this forum to have an opinion is absurd. This is a forum. Remember? Additionally, despite not supporting the music financially. I can really appreciate that 96' demo. Dat' Organ.
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Post by Tyrannus on Jan 13, 2018 9:26:43 GMT -5
I think that's fine, I just don't know why you felt the need to post in this thread just to put your political opinions out there. You have nine posts on this board so I don't know why you felt compelled to be virtue signaling so intensely. We get it, genocide is bad. That's sort of a given in most basic systems of morality. You're not helping or educating anyone by bluntly shoving your nose into a conversation that doesn't even have anything to do with politics. This is why people think SJWs are a thing, because some people don't know when is an appropriate time to discuss politics online. It invalidates your viewpoint to not be able to exercise some self-restraint. Back to discussing actual music, I can't quite get into the Crypt of Carmilla project as much as other people seem to. I much prefer the original Lamentation myself. It is odd that there's not more piano-focused stuff out there... This thread is about Lamentation appreciation, so in the spirit of good discussion why do you feel the need to put down an opinion on the fact (or at least the very good chance) that the dude is a Neo-Nazi? There's nothing SJW about disliking, or not supporting Nazi's. I agree with others that you can pirate the music if you don't appreciate his political stance (which I personally encourage). Also, making claims that he doesn't have enough posts on this forum to have an opinion is absurd. This is a forum. Remember? Additionally, despite not supporting the music financially. I can really appreciate that 96' demo. Dat' Organ. Politics seem unrelated to the music so I see no need to bring it up. And where is this poster now? Has he disappeared from this community entirely? That’s why I mentioned the amount of posts, because it’s almost like he joined the forum just to complain about nazis. I don’t know why you’re reviving the subject now really.
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Post by Niair de Nasqda on Jan 13, 2018 10:43:35 GMT -5
Another Dungeon Synth discussion hijacked by useless political opinions. Mortiis and Burzum both made openly racist comments during their DS era albums, get over it. Didn't know Mortiis made racist comments. I'm curious now. I thought Mortiis and Burzum were kind of against each other ideologically.
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Post by Robert on Jan 22, 2018 11:52:59 GMT -5
Nah. I'm still here. I read the forum pretty much every day, actually. I joined the forum because I like the music.
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Post by stormcrow on Sept 7, 2018 8:36:59 GMT -5
did you see the 2CD set compilation???
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Post by toodarkpark on Sept 7, 2018 17:57:27 GMT -5
did you see the 2CD set compilation??? Sure did here's a list of distros getting it: NORTHERN HERITAGE (FI) BREATH OF PESTILENCE (FI) WEREWOLF RECORDS (FI) MILITANT UNDERGROUND (FI) DARKER THAN BLACK/MOD (DE) NEW ERA PRODUCTIONS (NL) LOWER SILESIAN STRONGHOLD (PL) DARKNESS ATTACK (US) TOUR DE GARDE (CA) HAMMER OF DAMNATION (BR) Dunkelheit Produktionen (DE)
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