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Post by poppet108 on Nov 20, 2018 12:51:18 GMT -5
Neofolk is something I've gotten into a bit lately. My favorite acts are probably Sol Invictus, Agalloch and The Moon Lay Hidden Beneath a Cloud. I'm also a big fan of how bizarre stuff like Dead Raven Choir can be. There are a lot of artists I still have to listen to more to, like Current 93. I generally like how medieval or ancient neofolk can sound, although often the themes can be a little too fascist/nationalist for me.
this is a very interesting neofolk record I picked up at a record fair thinking it was metal, but I think that its bizarre blackened pagan surf neofolk nature makes it all the better.
My girlfriend is into Heilung, I don't know if they quite count as neofolk, but I rather like them, as well.
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Post by stormcrow on Nov 20, 2018 14:53:43 GMT -5
although often the themes can be a little too fascist/nationalist for me. This reminds me of an old topic we had about "problems" with NS projects appreciation. The point is that most of the music we talk about here is, at least, right-winged (DS, BM, neofolk etc) and I am still slightly in confusion with this... You know I'm a big fan of Russian folk ambient, and there are more swastikas in that genre than in a neo-nazi parade  so: should I quit all that beautiful music from my library because of this?  |
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Post by poppet108 on Nov 20, 2018 18:54:46 GMT -5
although often the themes can be a little too fascist/nationalist for me. This reminds me of an old topic we had about "problems" with NS projects appreciation. The point is that most of the music we talk about here is, at least, right-winged (DS, BM, neofolk etc) and I am still slightly in confusion with this... You know I'm a big fan of Russian folk ambient, and there are more swastikas in that genre than in a neo-nazi parade so: should I quit all that beautiful music from my library because of this? Absolutely not, in my opinion I think that art is art, and its good to be critical of it, sure, but also to appreciate it. I'm Jewish personally, and I rather like Grand Belial's Key and Goatmoon. I think people should be allowed to listen to what they want, but also realize that this kind of music can have power over people. |
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Post by stormcrow on Nov 21, 2018 2:43:01 GMT -5
but also realize that this kind of music can have power over people. yes, this is absolutely right. I think Vikerness' YT Channel is even more "dangerous" in this sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2018 6:28:41 GMT -5
yes, this is absolutely right. I think Vikerness' YT Channel is even more "dangerous" in this sense.
... or not. As for myself, Vikernes and Burzum have lost all mystery, all charm, with these videos. He was a creepy nazi in jail, who has released a few strange albums. Now he's just a guy with a hat who talks shit in his car. It's hard to listen to « Filosofem » as an esoteric and cold masterpiece without thinking of Varg and his racist nonsense in front of his webcam.
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Nov 21, 2018 11:27:18 GMT -5
although often the themes can be a little too fascist/nationalist for me. This reminds me of an old topic we had about "problems" with NS projects appreciation. The point is that most of the music we talk about here is, at least, right-winged (DS, BM, neofolk etc) and I am still slightly in confusion with this... You know I'm a big fan of Russian folk ambient, and there are more swastikas in that genre than in a neo-nazi parade so: should I quit all that beautiful music from my library because of this? I'm not sure DS is really right winged as much as it has passion for fantasy. D&D and western fantasy literature are almost exclusivley rooted in ancient european folklore, so it makes sense that people who feel connected to their "native land" will love fantasy and DS, and of course some of them will be racist. To be honest, it's their only place to "escape" into "pure european fantasy", as i don't know of any other genres of music that has such an authentic passion for it. That been said, i also think ancient folklore from other places in the world can fit into some of the aesthetics of DS, like the works of poppet108 . For me, it's all about the ancient world and connecting with nature. |
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Nov 21, 2018 11:32:38 GMT -5
yes, this is absolutely right. I think Vikerness' YT Channel is even more "dangerous" in this sense.
... or not. As for myself, Vikernes and Burzum have lost all mystery, all charm, with these videos. He was a creepy nazi in jail, who has released a few strange albums. Now he's just a guy with a hat who talks shit in his car. It's hard to listen to « Filosofem » as an esoteric and cold masterpiece without thinking of Varg and his racist nonsense in front of his webcam.
Haha, i watched so many of his videos in the last years, and can relate. Filosofem is my favourite album, but i'm also in some sort of denail, since everytime i listen to it i can't help but think of Varg talking crazy nonsense in his car. I don't even care about his racism and stuff, i guess you'll alwayes be dissapointed when some mystical musician which you admired appears to be just another person with just another shallow opinion. |
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Post by stormcrow on Nov 21, 2018 14:40:27 GMT -5
yes, this is absolutely right. I think Vikerness' YT Channel is even more "dangerous" in this sense.
... or not. As for myself, Vikernes and Burzum have lost all mystery, all charm, with these videos. He was a creepy nazi in jail, who has released a few strange albums. Now he's just a guy with a hat who talks shit in his car. It's hard to listen to « Filosofem » as an esoteric and cold masterpiece without thinking of Varg and his racist nonsense in front of his webcam.
Eheheh this is also right! |
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Post by DieuxDesCimetieres on Nov 22, 2018 8:26:01 GMT -5
One reason I won't watch Vikernes' videos, ha ha!
I think Douglas P. of Death In June is one of those rare persons who has an innate ability to reveal enough but not too much of his persona in public, so as to retain the mystique surrounding Death In June and not detract from it. On the opposite end of the spectrum, ever since I started following Boyd Rice on Instagram, I've found it harder and harder to dig especially his neofolk stuff but also NON. He just seems like even at his age he is trying so hard to prove something about himself to people.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 15:03:11 GMT -5
One reason I won't watch Vikernes' videos, ha ha! I think Douglas P. of Death In June is one of those rare persons who has an innate ability to reveal enough but not too much of his persona in public I guess you never saw his profile on that old gay encounters website, proudly posing totally naked with only a yellow cap. |
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Post by wyverngarden on Nov 23, 2018 17:32:09 GMT -5
One reason I won't watch Vikernes' videos, ha ha! I think Douglas P. of Death In June is one of those rare persons who has an innate ability to reveal enough but not too much of his persona in public I guess you never saw his profile on that old gay encounters website, proudly posing totally naked with only a yellow cap. I didn't see that but I did see the constant personal dramas, first with David Tibet then with Albin Julius, etc. all the fallings out, justified or not simply became a bit tiresome. But I haven't been on the mailing list for over 10 years, maybe things settled down. |
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Post by DieuxDesCimetieres on Nov 25, 2018 23:47:14 GMT -5
No, I did not run in to a picture of Douglas P. on a gay website  And yeah, I know there's been drama and too much of it was exposed on mailing lists etc., but in retrospect they've affected the public image of DI6 quite little (IMO). Seems to me like for the majority of people, those have vanished from view and nowadays Douglas P. seems to be quite careful with what he says or does in public outlets. I guess it was all a bit of a hard learning curve of how stuff on the internet works, eh... |
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Post by toodarkpark on Dec 11, 2018 4:41:11 GMT -5
:format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-12896605-1544054094-2960.jpeg.jpg) Now Playing |
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Post by Almenning on Jan 14, 2019 9:43:10 GMT -5
Here was my attempt at Neo-folk. With strong Barbarian themes, using only accordion, recorders, tambourine and voice. I hope the storytelling and atmospheres appeal to some of you. delivererfolk.bandcamp.comExcellent release Nahadoth! The composition and arrangements sound perfect to me. You accomplished a well balanced crossover between the epic landscapes of DS and the acoustic qualities of folk, well done! |
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Post by Pilgrim's Shadow on Jan 14, 2019 13:49:41 GMT -5
Has anyone listened to the new Death in June album?
Still had not listened to the album fully, but this one is great!
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so: should I quit all that beautiful music from my library because of this? 
